podcasting partners in crime

“I’m so excited by this story—so excited,” Em Schulz says at the beginning of episode 86 of And That’s Why We Drink, a podcast focused on true crime and paranormal stories. “I’ve never done so much research,” Schulz says before launching into an hour-long rendition of the story of Harold the haunted doll, a possessed toy that leaves a trail of tragedy in its path.

Schiefer (’16) and Schulz (’16) studied together at COM, but only became friends after reconnecting in Los Angeles. While they pursued television careers, the two began hanging out. As their friendship blossomed, they realized they spent most of their time talking about true crime and sharing paranormal stories; eventually, they decided to turn their sometimes spooky, always hilarious conversations into a podcast.