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There are 5 comments on Why Doctors Are Terrified by Sudden Vaping-Related Lung Injuries, Deaths

  1. Unfortunately, individuals inside the FDA are not incentivized to make rapid decisions, even in the face of mounting evidence. This is a long-standing cultural issue within the agency.

    1. They are using propylene glycol in the e-cigarettes. I don’t know about all the formulas for vaporizer units but the last time I looked at this issue over two years ago most or all of the vaporizer liquids did not contain propylene glycol. I don’t know why they are using propylene glycol. Be aware that flavorings like Vanilla used in food also contain propylene glycol. The main difference is that there you are not inhaling the propylene glycol into your lungs but putting it into your digestive tract instead. Either way, oxidized propylene glycol does produce lactic acid. But lactic acid is also produced in athletic events where the effort puts you over the aerobic threshold and perform in the anaerobic range. Actually, in the past some carbonated soda beverages had lactic acid added to them for flavor preservation. I think that isn’t done any more.

      Do not confuse propylene glycol with ethylene glycol which was used in older car antifreezes. Ethylene glycol (which can also be modified to produce various derivative glycols) is toxic in even small quantities if ingested. That is why many car antifreezes now use propylene glycol instead as a base even though it is less effective to prevent boiling over.

      I hope they are differentiating in their studies a vaporizer unit from an e-cigarette because they don’t work exactly the same way. By that I mean using at least a standard ANOVA (Analysis Of Variance) as a means of differentiating the two units may illuminate things a bit over just thrashing around. The last time I looked at the issue most e-cigarettes operated at higher temperatures than vaporizer units.

  2. These products remain for sale to kids with no age verification, and no signature needed at time of delivery, on eBay and on eliquidstop.com as well as other sites.

    The FDA has not done anything to alter that, more than a year and half after acknowledging Juul product sales on eBay had been a problem.

    At my work for a non-profit, we take screenshots each day of these products that remain accessible to minors. It’s psychotic to allow children easy access to rum, and easy access to highly potent concentrations of nicotine is likewise crazy.

  3. Since millions of people have been vaping every day for several years these illnesses are only affecting a tiny fraction of 1% of all vapers. No honest person would claim these problems are “vaping related”. What they all have in common is oil in the vape liquid. There is no oil in standard nicotine vaping liquid so there is no threat there. THC is an oil that is slightly soluble in water so it should not cause illness either. The problems appear to be with oils used to dilute the expensive THC oil in illicit marijuana cartridges. Illegal marijuana cartridges have no relationship to legal mainstream nicotine cartridges or liquids.

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