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  1. Try a Catholic perspective:

    If Professor Jennifer Knust is interested in a non-simplistic and constructive interpretation of the bible, perhaps she should open dialogue with the Catholic Church.

  2. The Song of Songs in the bible depicts the love that exists between God and His people. It is well established that this love (God’s love) transcends sexual and romantic love between humans. Interpreting the poem to allude to same-sex attractions is an adulteration of the true meaning of this Old-testament book.

  3. I have to first clarify that I speak here not to cause harm to people who believe or practice homosexuality because Jesus said “For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives but to save them.” Luke 9:55-56 (NKJV, because NIV has a serious omission). But I’m here to speak against Knust.

    Knust asks, “did everything in the bible condemn homosexuality?” knowing it is false. Then she said, “well here is Song of Songs that is queer theology for you, supporting same sex attraction. Why don’t you practice homosexuality?”

    Just like in Genesis 3:1-5, how did the serpent lure Eve to eat the fruit of wisdom? He started by asking if all fruits are forbidden to eat, knowing it is false. Then he said, well maybe you will not die of eating the fruit of wisdom either. Why don’t you eat it?

    If you want to look for homosexuality in the bible, the relationship between King David and Jonathan is probably the canonical example. Why twist the good meaning Song of Songs which is really about pure love, not physical attraction?

    Matthew 22:30 quotes Jesus as saying, “At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.” Even if you interpret Song of Songs as attraction between God and men, or Christ and men, this attraction will be non-physical.

    Knust, your argument is absurd.

  4. It’s rare to read something intelligent on this website… thank you for a wonderful and sensible interview that more people should read and absorb

  5. Ah yes, once again the LGBT community will distort what is written in the Bible and completely ignore both historical context and 2,000 years of Theological commentary to force the Biblical text to say (or not say) what they want it to.

    If you believe that an LGBT lifestyle is morally appropriate, fine — you have every right to do so. But stop trying to distort history and faith to match your personal moral decision.

  6. Prof Knust says, “There are wonderful texts in the Bible, and if we stop applying them in this simplistic way, maybe we could find something really beautiful — and to stop using the Bible as a hurtful instrument.” I think its also time to stop trying to explain the Bible in such simplistic terms. What it really gets down to is that people need to read the Bible for themselves, stop looking to other people to tell them what it says, other wise we will just get the Bible misquoted and misrepresented. I suggest everyone read the Bible, its not a book thats hard to read. Another source for questions about why we should look to the Bible at all, watch videos of Q&A sessions, http://fbcnj.org/site/sermons/. I hope that these videos answer some questions.

  7. Let people live in peace, and leave religion out of it. No wonder an increasing number of people, including myself, do not identify with any religion. Let’s stop living in the Middle Ages. On a side note, the whole Republican town hall nonsense over health care reform really isn’t that Christian, now is it? What ever happened to the loving part of religion? Solve that problem, and maybe the numbers of those leaving the church will reverse, but until then don’t count on it.

  8. Did any of you even read this interview? Professer Knust is not trying to deny the presence of anti-homosexual references in the Bible, she is saying that the context in which those references were written is completely different from today’s world. We can’t use the arguments in the Bible and apply them to the present because we don’t know exactly what meaning these arguments had to the people who wrote them–we weren’t there! Knust is not attacking religion or attempting to undermine the values set forth in the Bible. In fact, she propounds quite the opposite. By focusing on such elements of the text, which likely no longer have cultural relevance, we are missing the beauty of the whole. And as someone who has studied these texts for the entirety of her career, I’d say she knows a good deal more about them than you.

  9. In response to – “Ah yes, once again the LGBT community will distort what is written in the Bible and completely ignore both historical context and 2,000 years of Theological commentary to force the Biblical text to say (or not say) what they want it to.”

    So it seems, in your view, that if the LGBT community brings a different perspective to this discourse – one you don’t agree with – then it is “distortion” – In my opinion Ms. Knust is using her God-given intellect to examine the context in which we live today and asking if a context from 2,000 years ago is appropriate for today. Obviously millions of same-sex
    couples are living healthy, productive, and spiritually full lives. Sorry if that bursts your bubble. Time to grow up and stop trying to be God. Let God do God’s work because He can do it a lot better than you. Everyone in the LGBT community has a right to have their own relationship with God just like you do. Sorry if ours doesn’t look like yours. Maybe it’s time for some bible basics like “love thy neighbor” – and as Ms. Knust points out “There are wonderful texts in the Bible, and if we stop applying them in this simplistic way, maybe we could find something really beautiful — and to stop using the Bible as a hurtful instrument.” Perhaps you are the one who is distorting things.

  10. Really interesting article. I’d have to disagree with some of the things Knust is saying. I think it’s dangerous to say that what’s written in the Bible has become culturally irrelevant. And, I wasn’t convinced by Knust’s argument. I guess it depends, like she said, on whether you take the Bible as the opinion of a variety of different men or as the actual word of God. You have to go all or nothing. You can’t pick and choose which parts of the Bible to accept.

  11. Thanks Prof. Knust for a wonderfully enlightened talk last night! Your examples were incredibly detailed, and I only had hoped that some of the negative commenters would have had the chance to attend as well. Maybe they would have seen things in a different light.

  12. Refreshing to see one who uses her God given Intellect to question and search for truth. I see you as in the company of Hans Kung. Do your research and question, question, question!!! See how much thought you have provoked. I will remember you in my Masses and prayers.

    Thank You, Lord, for this precious child. May You watch over her and continue to give her inspiration to seek out the truth. Amen.

    FR. Francis

  13. There is no one Catholic perspective anymore than there is a single Jewish or Protestant perspective.

    Thank you Professor Knust and BU for engaging this issue. BU is finally coming out of the dark ages by addressing issues like this and by acknowledging that LGBT scholarship exists.

    Now, let’s get to work on establishing a degree program in LGBT studies, thus joining Stanford, UCLA, and the University of Minnesota, among others.

    The many books in many translations that comprise the bible were written for readers at the time of authorship and for all time. This does not mean that we should interpret the stories the same way they were interpreted when written. Jesus took slavery for granted since it was nearly universal then. We don’t now.

    If it were even a good idea to accept all of what is written in the many books that comprise the bible at face value, we still would disagree about what it means.

    We ought to open our minds and hearts to these books, not use them as wespons against minority groups that frighten us.

  14. I want to thank Professor Knust for her thoughtful responses to the questions above.

    The many books, in many translations, written at many different times, were never taken literally until relatively recently. Many feared that the Enlightenment would replace faith in God with faith in science, thereby threatening the primacy of religion as the explanation for our existence. Instead of accepting science as a human advancement that added understanding to biblical writings, some people reacted in fear. Their response was to treat scripture like science by claiming it was literally true and could be “proven” in the same way science proved its propositions. This was a reactive belief systems based in fear. We see what religions based on fear have done and continue to do to the world. Scripture, like poetry can certainly be true, but it never claimed to be factual.

    Regarding the suggestion that Prof. Knust “should try a Catholic perspective,” there is no more a single Catholic perspective than there is a single Jewish or Protestant perspective.

    One way to cut through all of this is to simply ask ourselves: “Does my personal theology live up to the high standard of “love thy neighbor” set by Jesus Christ? If so, we are probably on the right track. If not, it is time for a humble reassessment.

  15. Your saying that what it says in the bible about homosexuality in more places than Leviticus, (try Romans and 1 Corinthians as well) is not relevant to today? That makes no sense whatsoever simply because if God found it detestable then he would today. God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Not to mention if He finds it detestable then would he not find it detestable now? it only makes sense. Get your head out of the politically driven mode and read the scripture for what it is and it’s real context. Only then will you find what God is saying to you. Oh yeah if you want to twist what the bible is saying to mean what you want it to mean, what is the point of the book and studying it. I pray for you

  16. What in the world is the professor talking about? I have to question whether she has actually opened the Bible and read it or is her book based on theory and opinion.

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