KENNETH KOCH
C:
Li ving with o ne's grandpa rents would be limiting.
K:
Every situa ti o n is. Ce rta inl y li vin g here is limiting.
C: But it is ri ght. Wh at is impo rtant is here.
K:
How can it be here? T hat doesn 't rea ll y make any sense.
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C: Wh y no t here? Unl ess you think it is nowhere. Do you think
ri ghtn ess in fact doesn 't exi st?
K:
I think either it is a feeling th a t is different and will be in different
places for different persons and it is endl ess and it is interes ting and
we could stud y tha t, o r, if ri ghtness o r whatever causes ri ght feeling
or wha tever you want to call it, if thi s exi sts, then surely it will no t
rea ll y ex ist in a pl ace, though it may be there with the resider to
res ide, but it w ill be in a sta te o f mind, of spirit body and mind the
person has a tta ined .
C: But we a re no t perfect. T here a re a lways chinks and cracks. Perhaps
I have that a tta inment (how do you know?) but a lso a weakness
whi ch means tha t I can onl y fin d tha t ri ghtness in this place.
K:
I think wha t you a re di scuss ing is still mos tl y a feeling. I do not
think there is a place. Yes, the pl ace can help-o r hurl.
C: Spain used to be the pl ace.
K:
I never lived in Spa in . I was onl y there fo r a visit, in the earl y years
of my ma rri age, with my wife and then la ter with my parents.
C: It's no t the pl ace. Now thi s is the place.
K:
I wish we could be cl earer-but I suppose we can 't.
C: It 's cl ea r enou gh .
K:
T hank you very much .
C: Good-bye.
K:
Good-bye.
Jan.
5th.
Oua rzaza te, the South . One thing left out of thi s jo urn a l, as
the F key is now mi ssin g from my typewriter, wo rse luck, but I can
write on it anyway. Don 't become pani cked the way I used to about
every little thing goin g wrong. I mu st have been imposs ibl e to live
with . In side my pro bl ems. Inside my mind. Inside my corpor al entity.
Inside my subcu lture. In side my country. In side the wo rld. Certa in
characteri sti cs solid there be fractured here. T he man says he can 't get
the wind hi eld repl acement till tomo rrow. When it will turn out he
does no t have on e aft er a ll. So, endl ess ly in to the future, I'll rema in in
you, Ouarzaza te. Wha t a ni ce name. Like a drunka rd say ing Wha t is
that? Oua rzaza te. Essay on the ava il ability of the li ght scent of horse
