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There are 39 comments on Barriers Will Protect Cyclists from Comm Ave Traffic

    1. I don’t see anything here about a footbridge, just a raised crosswalk which serves as a kind of speed bump, forcing cars to slow down.

    2. There is already at least one elevated crosswalk (not a bridge) already in use here at BU. It’s on Harry Agganis Way near Gaffney Street and the BU Police station. The crosswalk is about 6 inches higher than the road surface and acts as a speed bump to slow drivers down where there might be pedestrians.

    3. The article said an “elevated crosswalk” not a footbridge. From that I understand a raised road surface, much like a large wide speed bump to slow traffic. Overall these changes are long overdue as a number of cars use Comm. Ave as a speedway. This avenue goes through the heart of a university campus, and anything to slow down traffic is welcome.

    4. Disregard the original post. I read it quickly and had heard about something similar in a different conversation. I’m glad it’s not a footbridge. Even elevated crosswalks seem unnecessary to me though. People need to get used to walking in the city, especially if they’re not used to it. If you aren’t careful, you could (obviously) get seriously hurt or worse. If you pay attention and look both ways every time, you will be fine. People are going to get hurt on the raised crosswalks too–I’ve seen people forcibly take the right of way as pedestrians and thats just not how it works!

  1. Your article states that Boston already has 92 miles of cycletracks. That is incorrect. We may have 92 miles of bike lanes, which are very different from cycletracks.

    1. Please see comments above. An elevated cross walk also works as a speed bump to slow down traffic and increase safety for pedestrians and cyclists.

  2. The majority of cyclists I encounter in Boston do NOT follow rules. They ride their bikes in the middle of lanes so you can’t pass them when inching over would allow you that courtesy all the while there is a painted bike lane that they not using, they don’t stop at red lights (or don’t stop for long), they don’t use any signals what-so-ever, and on top of all of that, they think they are special. If you want to make the streets safer for cyclists, take a good look at their own bad behaviors instead of just blaming drivers. I have never ever seen a cyclist pulled over and ticketed for reckless lane switching, for blowing through intersections, for cussing at drivers, for ignoring drivers, etc. They make my commute a nightmare (and you know who you are if that makes you happy). Who designed this plan and where is the extra 6′ of space coming from? What will it do to the already congested Comm Ave? Imo, I give them a week to stay inside these barriers and/or start complaining about pedestrians. Not feeling the love here, obviously, but I do love the idea that they will have to be out of the road. It will be required, yes?

    1. No, as the law dictates, cyclists may still take a full lane of the road. There are some cyclists who do not obey the law or be courteous on the road, but the same can be said for motorists. My life should not be put in danger because of the reckless behavior of a few.

    2. Hi Anon,

      I agree – it can be frustrating when people don’t follow the rules. Unfortunately there are pedestrians, motorists, and cyclists who don’t follow rules sometimes. People sometimes don’t follow rules.

      Often for cyclists not “following the rules” can be an intentional act in order to make them safer – by getting ahead of traffic to make sure that they’re seen, going through a red light when the pedestrian walk sign is on in a busy intersection, etc. Other times, cyclists can definitely wait.

      It is helpful if both cyclists AND motorist do know what is permitted and not in Boston. For example, cyclists can use the full lane. This is for many reasons – often a lane is not wide enough, the cyclist is making a left hand turn, they are approaching an intersection, there are giant potholes on the side which if hit would cause the cyclist to fly off their bike, etc. It is usually actually safer for a cyclist to use the full lane rather than the side of the road for visibility purposes. Although a driver may see changing lanes or having to go around a cyclist as an inconvenience, cyclists have the same rights to the road as a motorist. There are certain places where bicycles are not permitted (like some highways) – but otherwise, the cyclist can use the road just as you can. Here’s some great information and videos about safety, the use of the road shoulder, etc: http://cyclingsavvy.org/hows-my-driving/

      There seems to be a lot of anger in your post – and I think it would help to educate yourself on bicycle safety. It can be easy to see all the “bad” behaviors that cyclists have – and when a motorist doesn’t like it – we hear the horn, and everyone notices. When a motorist cuts me off, almost doors me, turns around me, and makes very illegal and dangerous decisions – I cannot lay on my horn, and other motorists usually don’t notice. As the driver doing this you may not even know or notice – which makes perception a very interesting thing in this circumstance.

      The reality is that most cyclists would like to have the option of a safe space like a cycle track to bike and get to and from in a safe way. Likewise, I cycle to work every day, and motorists make my commute a nightmare. Let’s work on safety together! :)

      1. @Biker

        A cyclist jumping the gun on a red light and starting to go through before it turns green so they get ahead of the traffic is a big difference from the routine running of lights that happens all over the city.

        There are a class of cyclists here, often students, that routinely blow through red lights up and down Comm Ave. When I leave campus each day I will often see the same cyclists do it daily. I leave from parking under Agganis and while waiting to turn right onto Comm Ave from Agganis Way I have to watch and stop abruptly for a cyclist (or pedestrian) running the red light despite my side street having a green light. They know that the police don’t care to enforce the law for cyclists and so they do it right in front of police routinely. That side street has the campus police station and routinely has officers coming and going.

        And it isn’t just once that I’ll see some of them do it, after making the turn and proceeding west away from campus I’ll see that same cyclist go through each subsequent intersection at Babcock or Packards Corner. Sometimes slowing down, sometimes without even looking. I cringe each time afraid I’m going to watch them get hit.

        I’m not saying motorists are perfect either… they also have plenty of issues and I agree that cyclists should use the full lane and do have the same rights to the road as a car. But please, please follow the rules so we don’t hit you. It is hard enough to see you compared to a car and if you run the lights and come flying through the intersection at top speed as I am crossing or turning into your lane then you are going to cause an accident.

    3. Anon, by law cyclists have the same right to the full lane as motorists, there is no “courtesy” involved. If a cyclist is using the full lane, assume it is for a reason (a car parked too close? Some debris in the lane? A bus picking up passengers that needs to be overtaken?) and not because they just want to anger you. Yes, some of us are clueless, but many just want to get wherever we are going, as safely as possible.

    4. how do you expect bikers to follow the rules when cars can’t even do that. have you ever seen com ave during rush hours? then you should know Boston drivers are awful- what do you except bikers to do? follow the rules and get killed, or go with the flow of traffic? you’ll never understand what it is like biking on com ave unless you actually do it.

  3. “36,000 motor vehicles, 22,000 pedestrians, and 5,000 cyclists” — is this right? That sounds like far too few pedestrians, not even the number of students at BU (most of whom make more than one trip on Comm Ave a day). There are plenty of bikes on Comm Ave, but are there really one bike for every four pedestrians?

    Also, if a car drives one way in the morning and the other way in the evening, is it counted twice? What about a pedestrian?

    I’m curious what’s the reference for these numbers, I would like to thanks a closer look.

      1. I think what BU Parent is asking is, what are the plans to clear snow from the bike track when it snows in the future? I don’t know if you’re from the area, but it tends to snow during the winter here.

        1. Sorry, I must have been a little confused by the question because snow falls everywhere – streets, side walks, etc – and like those places, the snow will be removed. There are many other bicycle paths that are cleared throughout the city during the winter months. Many times this can be a challenge because bicycle paths are not viewed as priorities and so are left for long periods of time without care, and often city streets are not plowed all the way to the curb making existing bike paths non-existent or non-rideable. If you’re concerned about them not being properly taken care of, or questions about maintenance, please talk to the city of Boston and Boston University. Advocate for bicycle paths and cycle tracks to be a priority in snow removal!

    1. Dear BU Parent, here’s the plan for clearing snow: Favor cars & drivers above all others. Clear the roads by shoving the snow where cyclists ride & park their bikes. And watch as snowplow drivers practice “snow removal” by gleefully attacking parked bikes & damaging them by burying them.

      We’ll believe the city (& BU) is serious about encouraging bicycling when cyclists, and the spaces they need, are treated as more than just a contemptible afterthought.

  4. This is great news for the entire BU community! The design from the city really focuses on the safety of all pedestrians and cyclists along this stretch of Comm Ave. I’m very pleased and encouraged.

  5. If the subway was renovated and cars were banned within the city, allowing bikes to use the full roads, we would have a much more efficient travel system.

  6. I bike all the time and quite frankly there is NOT enough emphasis on obeying the rules of the road. All bikers in MA should get very familiar with the rules of the road and FOLLOW them – they are all listed quite clearly out on http://WWW.MASSBIKE.COM.

    We have all seen some biker fly through crowded and busy intersections – fly through groups of pedestrians – that behavior is WRONG WRONG WRONG. You can put up bike tracks here and there and everywhere – there is hardly room for them anywhere in crowded Boston – it seems to me this will only infuriate stressed car drivers, and only marginally improve safety for bikers. I am also seeing local civics groups a bit upset as none of them heard of any hearings on this development in Allston/Brighton.

    The police seem to enforce laws on bikers only after nasty accidents. It is in bikers own interests to follow the rules of the road. Bikers should go further than following the rules of the road and carefully watch for pedestrians coming out from behind cars and trucks.

    I have been lucky enough about a dozen times to have been going slow enough in such circumstances to stop and wave a woman with a baby carriage to cross. If I was ‘flying’ along – ugly. You cannot apologize to a baby, let alone how regretful it would be to apologize to the mother.

  7. I cannot wait. Thank you to the city and to BU for beginning to take bicycle safety seriously. It takes a lot more than free helmets and bike lights.

  8. This is great news for the BU community! Hopefully it will also make pedestrians more aware that there is a bike lane. I better not see any joggers in there…

  9. I guess I missed the part about how this protects pedestrians from cyclists who run red lights and stop signs.

    I’ve played all the roles in the traffic mix including commuting by bike for many years. It’s Boston, so everyone misbehaves somewhat, but cyclists are by far the worst. You have the clueless who don’t even know the laws apply to them, and the angry, arrogant types who think riding a bike puts them on a higher moral plane where laws don’t apply to them.

    It’s a good idea to protect bikes from cars. I’d like to see it combined with a plan to protect others from cyclists. Daily law enforcement with consequences, not the once-a-semester productions we have now, would be a great start.

  10. One problem I see right off the bat is that the cyclists must go in one direction in the bike lane with the flow of traffic. I mean, this is how it should be; unfortunately, there will be a number of cyclists who are too lazy to cross the street to ride in the correct direction and I could see many said lazy cyclists bicycling in a bike lane AGAINST the flow of traffic. Maybe cyclists could kinda police each other? That actually works here in NOLA. Not sure about Boston and Comm Ave.

  11. I want Red Light Cameras for the bike lanes.

    As a pedestrian I have been near hit by full red light running bicyclists multiple times, and contacted twice.

    I would even support flat tire strips for bicyclists that retract with green lights. That wouldn’t be practical, but is time to stop tolerating the dangerous acts that many cyclists seem to think they are entitled to committing.

    I’m not saying cars and pedestrian in Boston are perfect, they are probably the worst in the USA, but the cyclists are probably the worst of the three transportation modes and the easiest road trouble makers to nip in the bud.

  12. Dear Nathan, your concern about bicycles & pedestrian safety is appreciated, but your proposed solution will not be adopted.

    Installing something directly intended to damage private property is a non-starter. It can also cause injury to others. Sudden flat tires can cause cyclists to lose control & injure others. Cars will be damaged, & pedestrians injured too. The liability issues are immense & unavoidable. It’s impossible to ensure that no harm will come to the multiple users that are inevitable with finite road space.

    You mention problems with pedestrians & cars, but suggest no remedies for their transgressions. Shall we assume that you belong to those two groups but are not a cyclist? Cars & their drivers create many more problems, not just with traffic, but health & quality of life problems. They also pose a much greater threat to people & property than bicycles do; after all, you report only close calls from cyclists. Imagine if someone offered your solution as a remedy for bad Boston drivers. It would not, & could not, be taken seriously.

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