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There are 53 comments on How Epic Is Greek Life?

  1. Is there an online list of the activity dates and times? Also, are any NPHC Greek organizations apart of this Greek week?

    Thank you,

    -NPHC Greek Member

    1. Yes. On Facebook, you can look up Boston University Greek Week 2013 and join the event!! Any organization can be a part of Greek Week and we want everyone to be part of our philanthropic cause!!

      1. Have you all reached out to any NPHC members? It’s funny whenever BU covers “Greek Life” on campus they neglect Black Greek Letter Organizations even though this past month both Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity, Incorporated and Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Incorporated had events on campus. Dean Elmore, as a member of the NPHC should have a vested interest in making sure Panhellenic greeks include NPHC members into campus “Greek Life”.

        1. There are not currently any NPHC organizations that are actually recognized by BU, however the Multicultural-Greek Council organizations will be participating in Greek Week.

          1. What is the reason these NPHC organizations aren’t recognized? Is it because they are being held to a completely irrelevant standard of having a certain number of members on campus per semester like panhel orgs? If the Black population of BU was larger, that would make sense to require them to have 20+ members, but that’s incredibly unrealistic and is a barrier to the community service and amazing events that are planned. Boston University has disrespected and mistreated NPHC members for quite some time now. It’s a disgrace.

  2. This is such a biased piece. Why must BU ALWAYS portray Greek life as a horrible thing? Wouldn’t it be better for the school and the school’s image for it to build up its student groups rather than do everything it can to bring them down? Every student has different needs and being a part of a fraternity or sorority gives some students a sense of security and support as well as a source for social opportunities. It’s not for everyone. Just like being a part of a sports team isn’t for everyone. Neither is better or worse. They are just different. There really is no need for all of the hate.

    1. I don’t think “biased” means what you think it does. Your comment reads like a Greek who’s butthurt about the story mentioning what’s actually been going on here (suspensions) along with the philanthropy efforts you always seem to hang your hat on.

    1. Lol at not knowing how funds are used. The fees go to events we host, whether philanthropic, brother/sister bonding, or fraternal development, etc. and we all have common interest in such. I’m going to assume you may be a part of a student group on campus, at which point you must have paid for some aspect of your activities. If not, you are a lonely person who has yet to explore the fun this campus has to offer both greek and non-greek.

  3. I just love how they CLAIM all these amazing philanthropic efforts but so many of the organizations they support are poorly run or super surface-level. Last year so many supported the Komen foundation when a VAST majority of the money Komen raises just goes to paying their CEOs.

    If we’re going to pump up the faux-philanthropic nature of fraternities and sororities I think it would also mention how very little thought and research they put into choosing their organizations.

    1. Before you go off saying that the philanthropy work that fraternities and sororities do is superficial, why don’t you actually look into more than one organization? You don’t get to be the judge of what organizations are worth sending money to. But for the record, BU Greek organizations give money to St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital, the American Heart Association, The Boys and Girls Clubs of America, and The North American Food Drive, all of which are highly accredited. If you care so much about philanthropy, why don’t you spend less time bashing Greek life and more time doing charity work?

    2. The Susan G Komen foundation has a four star rating from Charity Navigator and spends the vast majority of it’s money on research, raising awareness, and providing health services. Please do a little research before you make false claims

    3. All Greek Week proceeds are going to the Dream Street Foundation, where 0% of donations received go towards paying CEOs, staff members, etc. Every dollar raised this week will directly benefit the children involved in this foundation. This is something that we actually put a lot of thought into and researched, but thank you for your concern.

  4. I’m SMG ’56, ZBT, MU chapter. My fraternity experience was a positive one and often reflected upon. The brothers were a bit older then today’s kid’s. I never dated till the fraternity dances and the social life certainly helped in the maturity process. The house on Comm ave was a home in many respects. Let me be quick to say that enjoying many other campus activities helped the growing process as well. Society was well represented with a full range of personalities and one quickly learned to accept or reject friendship overtures as the case may be….

  5. I purposely sent my child to a school where Greek life was NOT the majority because I wanted them to get good grades and make responsible choices.

    1. I receive fantastic grades and make responsible decisions while enhancing not just my college experience, but my experience in life as well. I am sorry that you felt the need to control where your son/daughter attended school based off of Greek Life.

    2. It’s terribly sad that you think your college age child can’t get good grades and make responsible choices on their own, without you picking their school and setting boundaries for them.

  6. Let me just clear up one thing first: We are not paying for our friends. We pay the organization so we can plan events, both social and philanthropic. Many people also pay money to be a part of club sports teams so that they can have a coach, plan their game schedule, and get transportation. It’s the SAME PRINCIPLE. Money gets things done. You might figure that out sometime in life…

    Being a part of Greek Life at BU is something to be proud of. I have met MANY diverse students through greek life, so a lot of these arguments are false accusations. People should keep an open mind because the VAST majority of greek life students do not fit their stereotypes. Everyone is friends with people both in and out of greek life. Every greek life member in this YouSpeak video were well spoken and passionate about their responses! I’m an Electrical Engineering major and I sacrifice my studies with good reason. The people I’ve met and the experiences we’ve had together have formed me to be a social person, creative mind, and critical thinker. Greek life has actually taught me to be a leader and to be less judgmental than the stereotyping people who are commenting here today. Despite what many think, we really are a positive aspect of this community and a reason for many students to stay at BU.

  7. People join fraternities here at BU for the same reason troubled inner-city youths join gangs – they are weak and they need a group to control their lives

    1. For the record, I don’t need a group to control my life. I am a student here on scholarship, which I received- and maintain -via my own independent academic work. I chose my college, and am now applying for grad school, independently. I am a member of several other clubs here at BU, all because I CHOSE to be in them. I also have been diagnosed with epilepsy and deal with that every day of my life (and which, by the way, my sisters know about and do not judge me for). I am certainly not a “weak” person, nor do I need anyone to “control” my life, and quite honestly, I resent your generalization that I am such a person and even more so, your comparison of me to a gang member.

    2. Wow, don’t you think it’s a little ignorant to assume that all people join an organization to be controlled? Does the same go for other organizations?

      I joined a sorority to branch out because I was concerned that I wasn’t meeting enough people other than those in my classes and my building. I tried out other clubs first but some seemed cliquey and made me feel that I had to share a certain mind set. I truly considered transferring first semester because I didn’t feel welcomed into the larger BU community. The girls in my sorority welcomed me with open arms and made me feel comfortable with who I was. I was never once pressured to do, or be someone, that I wasn’t. I have never felt controlled and I’m certainly not surrounded by “inner city” gang members. The girls in my sorority, and in others who I have met through the Greek community, are kind, caring and smart women who are certainly not weak.

      Since joining Greek life my grades have gone up, I’ve made strong friendships and I’m no longer considering transferring. You may not support Greek life, which is fine, however you should be more informed as to way people choose to join Greek life and should think twice before comparing them to criminals.

    3. I find it repulsive that you call inner- city kids who join gangs weak. You’re comparing joining Greek life by choice to a systemic failure that leads kids to make certain choices in order to survive the streets. Just because the system hasn’t failed you does not give you the right to call these kids weak.

  8. As a recent graduate of BU (2013) and member of Greek Life, I must say that being in a sorority changed my college experience for the better. I made life long friends, attended study hours to keep my grades up, had fun at social events, helped to raise money for philanthropies, and learned valuable leadership abilities. I put my sorority accomplishments on my job resume and even talked about it during my first interview. I was offered the job and now work as a teacher. I’ve joined an alumni chapter in my area and have met women from all over the country who share the same ideals and views about Greek Life. Some college students don’t choose to go Greek and some do…and that’s OK! For me it was a great decision, but I respect those who feel like it isn’t the right fit.

  9. I think people who bash on Greek life should realize that not everyone in fraternities and sororities are the same. That’s the beauty of Greek life at BU. We are all different and we accept that and don’t chastise people for not being a part of our organization. If you have met a Greek like that than I’m sorry because they are giving us a bad name, but it doesn’t mean we are all like that. Some things have happened that were not good, like hazing, but on the whole the fraternities and sororities at BU DO NOT haze and I mean that sincerely not to cover up or defend, we really honestly do not. You shouldn’t let one or two people damage how you see a group of people or think about Greek life according to movies and TV. As to exclusivity, how do we not have a right to be exclusive? We all went through recruitment to become part of a smaller community at BU because it’s a big school and making friends can be hard…isn’t that why people join clubs or organizations? Well we chose Greek Life and that choice may not have been right for you, and that is completely fine. Nobody is going to judge you for deciding Greek Life isn’t your thing,and if they do then they suck,but you shouldn’t judge us for deciding it is our thing. If you think we are exclusive because we hang out in our Greek community and that angers you, then why didn’t you join if you want to be a part of it so badly? But besides that there are so many people that are in Greek life and have a lot of friends that aren’t. I guess what I want people to know is that you can’t judge us if you don’t know us and meeting one or two people is not enough to form an opinion. You can’t know what a story is about if you only read two words, and it’s the same with us. If you still don’t like us after meeting people that’s fine, I’m sorry on behalf of the Greek community for whatever we have done to make you hate us so much, but that doesn’t change the fact that we are a proud and strong community that is not built on parties or ‘paying for friends’. Our community is about making a difference and finding people who give you the courage to do new things, meet new people, and build relationships that will most definitely last us a lifetime, but if you don’t have an open mind you would never know that.

  10. I can’t frats or sororities seriously as philanthropic organizations because, well, they would be philanthropic organization then. The entire purpose of participating in those philanthropic activities is to legitimize their existence and not be banned.

  11. The angst on this page every single semester haha. BU needs to get all these commenters and separate them into two tribes, ProGreek and Anti-Greek, and apply for them to be on the next season of Survivor. The challenges can include such classics as a “buying friends-off” and a ” complain about random organizations off”.

  12. I am not involved in Greek life at BU because I decided it would not be a good fit for me personally. I appreciate the effort of this piece to be balanced, but I am afraid that in doing so it is furthering the impression (which seems to echo BU & Dean Elmore’s opinions) that Greek life is something that is either good or bad, and that people have to judge and make a decision about that. I don’t think the university should be trying to determine if Greek life belongs or not based on some sort of big judgement, but should be more supportive of something that their students are so interested in.

  13. As someone who was unsure about whether they wanted to go through sorority recruitment, I understand some of the hesitations people have about Greek Life – especially time commitments, social pressures, money, and grades. I had a full academic scholarship and had an added pressure of maintaining a high GPA in engineering. It has been almost 4 years since I was considering my options, and I couldn’t be more happy with my decision to go through recruitment to see what the community had to offer.

    Through Greek Life I found many things that I couldn’t have understood before experiencing it first hand. Yes, there were incredible service opportunities – both through my own organization and through the other organizations in the community. I loved how supportive BU Greek life was of other organizations. Not only do all the organizations raise a lot of money to help worthy causes, we also volunteer our time in soup kitchens, in community clean ups, in nursing homes, in schools for the blind, and more. This is the characteristic that I think is highlighted most to perspective new students because it is the easiest experience gained through membership that can be related to previous experiences.

    However, Greek Life offers so much more to all of its members, and I will touch on a few of these aspects. Greek life truly helped me grow as a woman. It didn’t change me – rather it helped me develop into a confident and strong leader. I was able to assume leadership roles in my chapter which in turn helped me secure employment. You learn professional skills, life building skills ranging from financial planning workshops to self defense seminars, study skills (all chapters have academic achievement and development programs), and networking skills. There are few things as exciting to me as having another member of my sorority come up to me when they see me wearing my letters, or stumbling across the fact during conversation and knowing that you have an instant connection with that person. And being a member of a Greek organization is not for 4 years…it’s for life. The national structure provides incredible resources and training opportunities to help members grow into better leaders – resources unavailable to other student organizations due to their limited scope. There are leadership conferences and Conventions where members can attend to meet other collegians from all over the country and develop their leadership skills.

    Additionally, something I did not expect to gain was an emphasis on understanding personal values and how to work to identify and live by yours. Each organization has a core set of values that its programming seeks to develop in its members, ranging from scholarship to leadership to service to friendship. These values, unique to the various organizations, are the core of what each organization stands for. They challenge members to examine their actions and how they reflect upon members’ personal values, and to consider how their behavior impacts their personal and professional image, a concept important to success in the “real world”. Greek organizations also provide an opportunity to belong to something bigger than yourself, something special, and to be able to take part in traditions well over 100 years old.

    Additionally, I would like to offer a counterpoint to the idea that Greek Life is exclusive. The biggest purpose of the Panhellenic Community is to ensure that every woman that chooses to go through the formal recruitment process is able to find their home. The fact that there are so many organizations on BU’s campus contributes to the diverse options people can choose from. The nature of BU’s dynamic and diverse student body also ensures that chapters themselves are diverse and dynamic. I found even through the stressful process of recruitment that sororities were very inviting. It is the genuine hope of the sororities and the Panhellenic Council that each woman is able to find the organization they belong in. I was a member of a student organization that holds auditions, and from my experience, singing and dance and other audition groups are much more exclusive than Greek organizations.

    Having experienced nothing remotely resembling hazing in my sorority (examples of typical hazing events: peer pressured to do things, drinking, being picked on/yelled at, heck even scavenger hunts), I have found that sports teams, and audition groups were much more likely to partake in activities that can be construed as hazing. I always felt supported by my sisters and the other members of the Greek community, and this support is the thing that I attribute my willingness to try new things and go after opportunities to most. My sisters helped me prepare for my interviews, and when I got my first job offers, my sisters were the ones I immediately wanted to call and share the news with.

    After all that I have gained from my BU and Greek experiences, it is my sincerest hope that the new terriers stay open minded and consider the opportunities that come from Greek Life. Go to open houses. Try the recruitment process. If you decide later that Greek Life isn’t for you, then that is ok. But don’t write it off before giving it a chance and learning all of the information.

    And finally…I am proud to be a terrier, and proud to be Greek.

  14. What is so impressive about BU is the vast amount of clubs/communities available for the students to choose from. How sad to see all of the negative comments from students towards a fellow group on campus.

    Kudos to the panhellenic community for choosing to have a philanthropic component to their Greek Week. Not knowing anything about the mentioned Dream Street Foundation I clicked on the link and my heart was filled knowing the students chose this foundation. On the Dream Street web site I did not see any information as to how I can make a monetary donation (maybe an oversight on my part) and would like BU Greek Week to get acknowledgement, can you post information so I can send a donation.

    As a BU parent it would have been nice to see details highlighting the upcoming Greek Week events the students may be participating in and information about Dream Street. It’s a treat to read BU Today and feel connected to the many options available to the BU student.

  15. If it isn’t for you, don’t join it. If it is, join it. You’re not forced to do anything, make your own choice. And if you decide not to join it, don’t pretend you know what it is about.

  16. I think that Freshman shouldn’t be allowed to rush during their 1st semester of college. So many rush because they think it’s the only way to make friends and they don’t have a chance to see the campus or see what’s available/what other options they have before they go pledge(and some get hazed – and we know it still happens in some of the frats/sororities)

    If it’s REALLY what you want to do, go for it. But I don’t think that it’s fair to be recruited before you are given the opportunity to see anything else.

    I personally don’t like the structure of the organizations. I have issues with a group that “bonds” through illegal and dangerous activity. And being in one makes you better than those who aren’t, right? Because that’s how everyone else gets treated. Plus, how many kids get raped and/or sexually assaulted at or because they went to parties? How many people try drugs or drink excessively because their brothers/sisters do? How many people actually join them for philanthropic reasons? There’s the CSC here at BU for that…

    That being said, the IDEA is good. A group of people building a community and working to help a charity. It’s just that the execution of that hasn’t worked that way. And not all frats/sororities are bad, APO/SAL are great and the others do help their members build a community and feel included… I just don’t like their OTHER activities.

    1. I sincerely appreciate the fact that you did NOT make blatant accusations about Greek Life. That being said, the Panhellenic Sororities do participate in deferred recruitment (women cannot choice to join until after their first semester).

      Also, the Panhellenic and Inter Fraternity Council maintain strict guidelines for all registered groups and each is HIGHLY monitored and trained in the guidelines and repercussions of such illegal behaviors.

  17. As someone who did not plan on joining a sorority upon arriving at college I can honestly say that it was the best decision I ever made. I was never forced to do anything I did not want to do for my chapter because if I was, I would not have continued the process. Being a Greek Woman has made me a stronger and better woman because of the opportunities I have had and the experiences that have been allowed for me.

    I did not bond with my sisters in an illegal or dangerous way whatsoever. Campus approved and registered Sisters-Only events are the ways in which we were allowed to bond with our sisters. What people fail to understand is that each and every activity greek organizations put on has to be approved by not only university officials but also the national organizations. These events must be educational, meaningful or have some beneficial aspects for the members in order for them to occur.

    Joining my chapter has allowed me to prepare for my future in many ways. I am sure that I could have found other opportunities, yes, but I joined my group based on the principles and values that every member of our organizations shares and cherishes. I know that I have thousands of women all across the country that share the same beliefs and are as much my family as my blood relatives.

    I stand by every official registered Greek Organization through BU, whether they are IFC, NPC, NPHC or MGC. Take a minute to talk to more than one person in BU Greek Life and ask them about why they joined. I am sure that you will be surprised by the answers that most of these men and women give you.

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