• Susan Seligson

    Susan Seligson has written for many publications and websites, including the New York Times Magazine, The Atlantic, the Boston Globe, Yankee, Outside, Redbook, the Times of London, Salon.com, Radar.com, and Nerve.com. Profile

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There are 22 comments on Syria: What Can or Should the World Do?

  1. Nothing should be done. Why is it always OUR responsibility to sort out the world’s problems? There’s rampant human rights violations in North Korea and China too. Do we purport to solve their problems too? And how exactly do we go about doing that? Sending aid in the form of food/medical supplies didn’t help in Somalia in 1993. Farrah Aideed confiscated all of the supplies amidst a famine, essentially aiding his side. Similarly, sending arms will only fuel further bloodshed, delegitimize any effort to oust Assad by lending credibility to his ‘outside interference’ claims, and foster a prolonged civil war. Sending airstrikes has a high probability of killing civilians, and putting boots on the ground will put us in another Middle Eastern quagmire with an already over-extended military. Not to mention the massive drain on resources a war is.

    How about we let this play out the way it is. It’s tough to watch, but the world’s problems do not rest squarely on our shoulders. The money spent on arms/airstrikes on foreign countries can be better spent domestically to A) reduce our federal deficit B) Fix our crumbling infrastructure. Much like Joseph Kony or any of the other countless warlords who will undoubtedly fill his space when he is ousted (most likely through military intervention, not a Facebook campaign).

    1. Would it be your responsibility to help if you personally were in earshot of a rape, torture, or murder in progress? What if you were armed, in a group, and called by name? That is more analogous to the current situation.

      Dig beneath the domestic media coverage and you will find a desperate people calling to Americans directly because of what this country, miraculously, still represents to them—not the world police, but a people who, at least at one time, had both courage and conscience to call evil by its name and stop it. The human rights violators you name are the ones blocking multilateral action, which is why it rests more squarely on the shoulders of those whose have not made violations de rigueur.

      “Let ‘it’ play out” you say?! Like some sort of pit fight between a puppy and a python? This is pitiless Social Darwinism. Is that what you’d like to hear if the situation were reversed? Armchair geopolitical commentators need to sharpen their judgment: “human rights violations” come in actionable and merely regrettable varieties.

      What the world has been witness to FOR OVER ONE YEAR is the systematic, indiscriminate killing of civilians. Torture of adolescents. Snipers shooting women and children. Tanks shelling neighborhoods followed by execution-stryle murders. And, as reported today, refugee corridors being mined. As leaked intercepted emails reveal, the Syrian government is counting on your continued smug cynicism, poor historical analogies, and quibbling over what number makes an atrocity to provide cover to their terror.

      1. How is Syria different than Congo…China…North Korea…Saudi Arabia…Bahrain…Yemen…Algeria…Iran…where does it end with you people? Americans first and foremost. Then we can think about the others. Last time we took your kind of mentality, Abram, we were told we’d be welcomed as liberators in Iraq. 11 years later we just pulled out of there and are still in Afghanistan. Get real.

        “This is pitiless Social Darwinism.” Yup. You’re right. Sometimes that’s what it takes. Darfur played out and is now pretty much over. Syria, like so many African nations, are the most ancient ‘civilizations’ in the world. We’re relative newcomers here in North America. But we don’t slaughter our own people like animals. Let it play out, because if we intervene, you know they’ll just be doing it again next week, month, year, etc.

        I pay taxes in the US for the betterment of my country. Not to help Syrians.

        1. Sounds like a slippery slope dude, once you start drawing lines in the sand where do you stop? Why stop at the US border? What about only caring about those in your state? County? Neighborhood? Street? House?

          If you agree that is wrong to care about the well-being of nobody but yourself, then what difference does it make if the person in need is one mile away or one hundred? How far does someone need to be away from you before his or her life doesn’t matter anymore? I think it might have been Paul Farmer who said, “the only true nation is humanity.”

          I think/have heard the golden rule of morality shared by virtually all cultures and religions is to, “do unto others as you would have others do unto you”. If you were in great need, if you or your family were in danger, and someone was aware of your plight, able to prevent it, and then chose not do so, chose instead to stand aside and let your family die, I think you would be justified in being a little upset about that.

          I think you’re absolutely right to point out how widespread human rights abuses are in the world and to question how to best go about addressing them. After all, bad decisions made with good intentions are still bad decisions. However, just because a problem is incredibly difficult to solve doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t try to solve it. Since I’m already quoting stuff, why not through in some MLK Jr, “The greatest sin of our time is not the few who have destroyed but the vast majority who sat idly by.”

          And you’re also right that it’s not only our job to help in these situations, but like Uncle Ben told Spiderman—With great power comes great responsibility.

          I’m not saying I agree with all of our country’s overseas activities as of late, but I think it’s wrong to dismiss all humanitarian foreign policy out of hand.

    2. Both moral obligation and practicality should be taken into consideration. Isn’t this always the case, for any human being who is both moral and sensible? Clearly, a rational person would weigh several factors. No one is asking for military intervention in China, because it would clearly fail, and might start a world war. Publicity is the best avenue for helping the severely oppressed working people of China. But the people of Syria have asked for international help to stop an active massacre going on there. The whole protest movement in Syria started over the torture death of an adolescent, and now they’re massacring whole neighborhoods. But of course, we need to look before we leap, and plan and coordinate any intervention.

  2. I favor an internal national ban on selling weapons and ammunition to americans when you are selling weapons to non-ally governments. If you sell or manufacture weapons in the USA, you can’t sell to enemy countries.

    The USA has a HUGE international presence in small arms sales. An american boycott would matter.

  3. I’m glad this topic is getting a bit of attention. If Al-Assad were to be tried, I believe he would definitely be found guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity. It is extremely unfortunate that Russia and China sustain their stance on opposing action in Syria. However, they have stated that their main reason for doing so is their belief that it would only further escalate the violence and bloodshed in Syria. They definitely have a valid point, however the violence will only continue to escalate on its own if no external action is taken. I do not think Al-Assad will respond to diplomatic action. He remains to say that he is fighting the violent opposition forces in his country, and fails to acknowledge the alarming amount of civilians being killed and put in harms way. In my opinion, Russia and China should retract their veto, and the UN should step in and help to remove Al-Assad from power.

    1. Why should I care? I’m not even talking about expending resources and money into a small, poor country in the middle east with little or nothing to gain. Simply, why should I care? Anywhere there is state sponsored killing we should go in? Somalia is pretty bad too. Sudan. Congo. Yemen. Where does this nonsense stop?

  4. To the ones who think that the US is the world police,rest assured it is not. It’s the world’s most selfish state. Going to Syria is like opening a fire front of chaos on the borders of Israel plus there is no oil to steal.
    To the writer, if “The death toll from the 1982 crackdown in Hama by President al-Assad’s father exceeded 20,000, compared to around 6,000 so far in this uprising. This is a serious violation of human rights, but not at the level of carnage you saw in Rwanda or even the former Yugoslavia in the early 1990s.”, I wonder what’s the point of having international laws if we always have to wait for a genocide to happen before we look back and say we should’ve or we could’ve.

  5. I have no moral qualms about intervening against this class of murderers (it’s not just one guy, but a police state), but I think we need to weigh whether it is likely to be a successful intervention. It worked in Libya. It would take comparable or even greater levels of intervention to work in Syria. Regardless of our decision, we should severely criticize Russia and China for their support of massacres. Russia has been Syria’s main backer for decades, and China was the main support for the Khmer Rouge and for the monstrous regime in Burma.

    1. “It worked in Libya.”

      Yeah! Right on! Except those innocent civilians getting murdered by rogue airstrikes and stuff! And like $2B we could’ve used on domestic infrastructure. And Libya is BEAUTIFUL now! I think they sing kumbaya with the former gaddafi loyalists at night before bed too right?

      Get real.

  6. Where quasi-democratic movements emerge on their own initiative in the middle east, the US should move to give them material support, as was done for Libya. The costs for this conflict may well be higher given Assad’s military power, but those losses could serve to unite anti-Assad fighters once they are emboldened with US weaponry and air strikes. The short term economic cost may be great, but if our nation stands behind indigenous democratic movements at their conception we stand to gain new allies in a vital but largely hostile region. By no means should we commit troops, however.

  7. Where is the love?
    I don’t watch the news or read the papers purely because it is overwhelming the amount of hate in our world. We need to do something I don’t know what, but we can’t stand back and ‘let it play out”! I know this is an idealistic view but I wish that we could all stop hating and start loving each other more.

    1. So go join Peace Corps and dig a well for Africans. There’s plenty of starving kids here at home that need ‘love’ too. Your priorities are out of line.

      1. You’re right to point out that there are those in need everywhere and all deserve to be helped. However, the burden of need in many international settings is orders of magnitude greater than what we have here. Do you not know this?

  8. Sarkozy is right, Assad is a murderer. What else would you call him after he killed hundreds of people with snipers on rooftops?
    Indeed, Assad and his henchmen have so much blood on their hands that they are no longer concerned with saving Syria, but with saving their own hide.
    As a world community governed by universal principals of fairness and empathy for our fellow men we cannot avert our eyes from the crimes against humanity these monsters are committing. Assad has gone beyond the point of any return to civilized governance. He knows it, and we know it.
    It is time, therefore, that we deal with him as the criminal he has become.
    We had acted with resolve against a similar criminal in Libya and we should act with resolve against this one in Syria now. Russia and China would be prudent to again stay out of the way.
    Enough is enough.
    Once more, the world has to do what simply needs to be done.

  9. TO AVOID THE SHAME TO DO NOTHING…ASSAD MUST BE STOPPED FROM THE MAD DESTRUCTION OF LIFE… WHY THE HESITATION ..such a hateful world and full of delusion..how can we really respect others or ourselves if we allow murder and allow fear to paralyse noble thought & action ?

  10. Western Europeans cannot realistically affect the situation in Syria unless we can persuade our governments to put a collective effort into finding a plausible solution. One way might be to assemble a mighty conference of European states in order to improve Syria’s horrific situation. Putin is surely a key player, and has shown occasional pragmatism; he just might be drawn into a plan that gave Russia a lead role in solving the Syrian problem, and incidentally raising his and Russia’s profile as major players on the world stage…

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