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    1. Yes, or ban them all together. The low frequency noise penetrates windows and walls and is above EPA, NIOSH, OSHA and WHO’s recommended safe levels. The noise is an assault to every living creature.

    2. I am the Director of Quality for a metal stamping company. I have been researching ways to reduce the noise in the facility from the presses stamping out parts all day. I would love to challenge the team to visit my facility and apply this development into a practical application in an industrial situation. Thank you!

  1. I would appreciate a comment from one of the researchers as to whether or not their discovery might find a future application in significantly reducing infrasound.
    In particular the powerful 10 Hz generated by diesel engine locomotives at great distances. I am thinking of protecting the sleep & health inside homes where this infrasound penetrates under any condition inside or outside (even if the building is surrounded by other structures & is not in direct ligne of sight).
    Not to speak of the much less powerful harmonics which rarely annoying or health affecting.
    Thanks in advance,
    J. B.

    1. As far as deep bass goes, nothing can hinder it – since it’s not based on sound waves but sound pressure – so it passes though objects, even these sound dampeners. The most effective blocking of bass is high mass material, like cork.

    2. I would imagine the solution is similar to much of audio recording: “get it at the source”. In other words, not solving the problem by building homes that can block the sound, but by reducing/eliminating the sound coming out of the engine in the first place, and perhaps this research can help there!

    3. Hi Joseph,
      The silencer design may be tuned to target different frequency ranges. However, in very low frequencies (infrasound), both the design of the structural shape and wave penetration into the structural material would be very challenging and problematic even in the context of this particular metamaterial design. However, infrasound silencing may be approached in a different manner where there is no requirement for the openness and preservation of ventilation, which were critical facets of this work. Many thanks!
      Best Regards,

      1. hi Xin, to follow up on what alot of people are curious about, what have you found to be a reasonable expectation of size vs low frequency reflection?
        for example, the specific prototypes in this picture, what frequency band are they tuned to reflect, and how large would something similar be for the lower frequency bands? is there any publicly available published data on this yet? good work, this is fantastic.

  2. Upon review, it is more like an aphysical review letter, as it’s not like those four got it out where nature could abhor it or not, unfrustrate urban bees, put it on all the campus service putt-abouts, performing arts building tunings, etc. as opposed to ASTM E 2611-09, which I choose to believe is a dronecore Boston band (…have citations for AIP always looked like that?) that stays under 600Hz in order to get a reputation or something.

    Additionally, I look forward to spring renderings in, with or on moss, at the diesel outfitters in a 10Hz loopba…okay, that’s clearly the right size…, and possibly at the clanky workers and fast recovery facilities in the gyms. We need to have a cutout for Boston Cheers to pass…

  3. This is amazing and am sure there will be number applications for this. Jet engines, MRI machines, Flyovers and roads which are near residential complexes and so on.

  4. Please consider open-sourcing the 3d files for those of us who want to experiment. My primary interest is in ventilation for soundproofed tiny homes and I’d be happy to provide real world feedback of whatever I find.

    1. Increase transmission loss of sound path (e.g., double-pane laminated windows) or decrease sound power of the source (e.g., dog is better trained).

      Nobel prize please :D

  5. Congratulations on an amazing design that will literally change the world.

    I have a home recording studio that is air tight but for two- 4” ducts pumping fresh air into the room and sucking old air out.

    The problem is I can’t use powerful enough fans to get the needed amount of air into the room due to incredible noise levels.
    This is the perfect solution and those circular units would be all I need.
    I would love to get my hands on two of them if someone from the group would message me privately please with more info…
    Thank You in advance.


  6. Now the interesting question is, how would/could this work in a real world scenario? There’s a static sound, which is being driven through a pipe.

    I’d love to hear how the material behaves when it’s not a static, eg. 400Hz sound, but music, talking etc.

  7. Talk to San Diego Airport.. they have an archaic blast fence to decrease sounds at takeoff on the single runway. All San Diegans would LOVE you if you helped reduce the noise!
    Good Luck with the new will help in millions of places! :-)

  8. I need a Tesla covered in this material. The road noise in my current Model S is so annoying. Please Elon, cover the car and make is silent inside!

  9. Hello,

    Great work!

    A fellow field audio engineer posted a link to your article, and like him I’m interested in the possibility of the metamaterials you’ve designed being used in sound engineering for film and video production and live sound; for instance with sound isolation for headsets and earplugs, and also applying these materials to designing better directional microphones. I wonder if there are some applications for this in speaker design as well?

    I have some questions: How is sound cancelling effected when sound is coming from off axis? How does it respond to different frequencies ? How does it respond to complex acoustic situations like music and non patterned wide spectrum sounds?

    Thank you!

    I’m a member of the Norcal mixers group ( in the San Francisco Bay area, and we have many audio engineers here who I know would be willing to test out your technology and give you valuable feedback from the field.


    Jack Morris

  10. I too am curious about this application for subbass frequencies.

    Also, I would like to see a demo of the contraption (muffler) used on that PVC pipe where the speaker plays a sine wave sweep from 1hz to 20khz. I can’t but help thinking the sine wave chosen for the demo was one which the attenuation device was optimized for. As we know, noise naturally is comprised of a fundamental tone and overtones. Lots of noise includes white noise too. We need to hear a demo of a wide variety of tones to better grasp how it can work for the real world. I can see how something simple like that could affect tuning frequency of a port (the PVC pipe) and the pressure nodes and anti-pressure nodes. It is more simple for one sine wave, especially one that is a midrange frequency as shown in the video.

    Yes, a leaf blower would be a good test since it has a sine sweep range between idle and wide-open throttle. :)

    1. I agree the test video is only one frequency. There are many Helmholtz resonator silencer designs that are tuned for certain frequencies. The plug also would likely have very high pressure loss for duct or pipe gas flow.

  11. This is amazing and congratulation to the team!

    I am currently looking for a solution to HVAC noise problem in my house, and I am wondering if there is a way to purchase one of these. I would be a superhero to my spouse and kid if could find something that can cut down on the mechanical noise which is drowning out our living room conversations (okay really our Netflix and bad LP’s, but still).

    I have looked into fiberglass duct insulation, but it will only have a nominal impact on reducing the noise and will be a pain to install. The situation seems perfect for what you have developed. I will love to be a real-world guinea pig if you are looking for one. Please contact me if it is possible or if you would like more details.

    1. Same here! We are located next to a draft fan for a boiler system and it’s awful. Sound reduction interior windows have helped some, but not entirely. This, however, would change our lives.

    2. I too have the same HVAC noise complaints as Brad Scott. Every condominium in Florida would love this device to bring down the almost unbearable noice level of our in the ceiling, “pancake,” air handlers! Can’t wait to see a device to mount at the room air vent.

  12. This is great! I do have a question about the testing apparatus; is there a reason why the PVC pipe is so long? Would the results be the same if the pipe was half the diameter and length?

  13. No doubt…grt Job. Sound has power to vibrate glass.till it its(u r device) absorbing the sound wave… convert that to something like any other form of energy.

  14. Congratulations team ! – could you tell me: is this frequency specific, or does it cover a spectrum? Is the 3D model available to be printed? Lastly I secretly wonder how such a shape may be used with photons….hmm. :)

  15. Please work on noise canceling floors. The downstairs neighbors are complaining even though we are very quiet. Congratulations on your enterprise!

  16. Xin Zhang,

    Congratulations on the achievement!

    It’s hard to tell from the picture what your device looks like. I’d love if you could give some more insight into the structure/make-up of the device, and how it’s particularly designed structure helps to reduce sound effectively?

    I have guesses, but, you’re the expert. Enlighten us?

  17. Could this be employed on boat engines to quiet the human sounds affecting marine life? I am thinking of the whales who can no longer communicate over long distances.

  18. Promising work! In audio, dB is used. 94% claimed attenuation is -24dB. The demo video exhibits -13dB attenuation, which is quite an achievement.
    The demo original sound is a 500Hz sine. How does the system perform with real life annoying noise, ie with a larger spectrum including frequencies below 100Hz? How much is size an issue for lower freq attenuation? thanks.

  19. Im also wondering if the test could be done with White noise .. not a single tone …

    I’m wondering if the structure is designed to reflect a narrow band of frequency’s and its 3rd harmonic or a span until the functional wavelength is less than 1/2 the width of the inner diameter of the noise cancelling device?

  20. Congratulations, I find this is very fascinating, which causes me to wonder that if sound waves are traveling vibrations of particles in media such as air, do they have mass on some level?

  21. Please translate “94%” to “dB decrease”.

    Also, are these devices reflectors or absorbers? I would conclude from the article that they are reflectors, but not 100% certain. Not even 94% certain :)

    Thanks !

  22. This would be an absolute god-send to parents who live with adult children with autism or other developmental disabilities. My son scripts constantly and loudly, and the sound travels through our ducts throughout the house. Being able to dampen that noise would improve our quality of life and make it easier for us to keep our son at home.

    1. Diane, have you tried sound dampening panels in your sons room? While they are not cheap (we used to plaster the garage with empty egg cartons back in the day for our garage band) there are a wide variety of sound dampening materials you could treat his room with that would make a difference. You can search them on-line or find a recording studio near-by to talk with. Good luck! (I taught special ed for 30 years!)

  23. Hello, congratulations to the research team! Brilliant new development! Could I get the STL file to print a sample for tryout? I realize the structural geometry is a unique development, but is the material a special formulation, or is it a generic resin?

  24. Thank you everyone for all of your interest, we sincerely appreciate all of the questions and comments that have been posted. We are doing our best trying to keep up and answer your queries. Thanks again!

    Best Regards,

    Xin Zhang

    1. Would love to 3D print hexigon versions to interlock as a wall panel. I’d rear mount 1/8” 1lb/sqft mass loaded vinyl to handle the lower frequencies. Could offer before/after data using DIRAC room correction analysis (impulse+frequency response measure and correction)

  25. I am curious about the potential application of this concept to firearms suppressors (silencers). Assuming that nothing could be done about the crack caused by the supersonic expansion of gases, would the metamaterial be able to attenuate the rest of the report?

  26. The challenge in HVAC applications is balancing pressure drop with acoustic performance. Silencers have been the go to solution for 30 years which are costly and typically add about .25″wc PD for a good selection. If the metamaterial offers lees press PD and cost than silencers, you have a winner.

  27. Can you please clarify a few things?

    1) Does this silencer only work at a single frequency baked into the geometry? If so, is there any hope of extending on the principles to make a broad band silencer? Alternatively, could it be made to be deformed in a predicable way that would allow tuning it to a range of frequencies?

    2) Does the attenuation depend on the incoming sound wave being a plane wave? Another way of asking this, would it work if it was installed as the outlet to a plenum?

  28. Hello,Ms Zhang, did u test the gyroid filling structure for the noise decrease device? With Cura 3.6, can select gyroid filling, i prefer with 5% fill density. The gyroid is super light and can reflect most noise movement face.

  29. From what I can gather this is a tuned, narrowband, passive attenuation device and so would offer very limited suppression of broadband noise such as a jet engine or a lawnmower. Likewise for an impulse such as a dog bark. It would be nice to see a curve of attenuation vs, frequency.

  30. At first blush, this structure appears to redirect a fraction of the impinging sound through a more lengthy channel, such that it emerges from the channel in anti-phase with the original, unmodified, un-delayed sound, in such a proportion as to most closely result in mutual cancellation. As such, it will only work in a narrow range around a specific frequency, and odd multiples of that frequency. So it would be useful for reducing the sound of a constant-frequency source emanating from a restricted aperture, such as the sound of a furnace blower through a heating duct. But it will not significantly reduce sound of arbitrary or variable frequencies, such as human voice sounds, music, variable engine frequencies, or other common disturbances.

  31. Please help people who are living with hyperacusis. Auditory hyperacusis causes every sound to be magnified. People who have this condition need to wear 30dB or 35dB earplugs or shooting range headphones just to leave their houses. Forty percent of people with Lyme disease experience some, or suffer from chronic auditory hyperacusis. And now there are way too many people with Lyme disease (& additional tick-borne illnesses).

  32. Is it mandatory that the center space be unobstructed , or could a screen or mesh be placed over the center area to slightly limit the air flow but still produce the desired results of sound reduction?

  33. First of all, thank you so much for your valuable comments and suggestions. Much appreciated!

    Herein, we have summarized several of the points that have received the most questions and we sincerely encourage you to read the full paper at the link below for further details:

    1. Acoustic metamaterials refer to structures in which the effective acoustic properties are dominated by their geometrical shape/pattern rather than their composite materials.

    2. The main focus of our study is to present a silencer design methodology that features a dominant open area to preserve efficient ventilation. Indeed, it is demonstrated in this paper that an ultra-open silencer (+90% openness) may be designed within the presented framework.

    3. Acoustic silencers are commonly in-duct based bulky structures which result in a considerable pressure drop in the case of forced ventilation. Our silencer features a large central opening to ensure efficient ventilation and its overall dimension is deep subwavelength. Moreover, it may be leveraged as a stand-alone structure such as the housing of a fan or propeller.

    4. The silencer performance is based on the Fano-like interference which arises from the destructive interference between the continuum and resonating states. Consequently, the silencing performance is frequency selective and occurs when an acoustic wave in the helical channels of the periphery reaches its resonant state. Furthermore, silencing emerges for a targeted frequency range as well as its higher harmonics (both odd and even) which may make this design particularly suitable for tonal noise suppression. For variable speed fans and propellers, multiband and tunable versions of this methodology may be adopted.

    5. The 94% reduction in energy is approximately equivalent to the 13dB loss which is strictly limited by the fabrication quality in our experiment. More advanced fabrication methods can significantly improve dB loss at the targeted frequency.

    Thanks again!

    Xin Zhang
    Boston University
    Tel.: 617-358-2702

  34. Does it work creating a long helicoidal path that makes part of sound wave meet the other part at the output with 180 degree phase shift? Making the two parts to destroy themselves?
    This would mean the silencer works only for a specific tone(frequency).
    Not as “magical” as the article suggests, but a great work anyway. Congratulations!

  35. if you read whitepaper this is tuned to specific frequency. it doesn’t block other frequencies. for that you need to change dimensions of the part, or material it is made out of. so for now this has very limited applications. maybe gun silencer or car mufflers. something that emits sound in a narrow frequency range.

  36. I work in an office which where the staff complain daily about the noise level, due to the acoustics (a lot of glass walls). If you are looking for a place to test, please contact me.

  37. I’m not sure what makes it happen, is it the shape of the print, or this “meta material”? A combination maybe? What is this meta-material? How hard would it be to print such a ring on a consumer grade 3D printer?

  38. Our property has freight train tracks just past the far end of our lot. Is it possible to build a sound barrier from this technology to reduce the noise generated by the freight trains …?

  39. Hi,
    would it also work to reduce sound between two rooms connected by ventilation opening?
    I am looking for space saving solution!
    All best!

  40. I would like to use your invention to reduce the noise produced by “Jake” breaking. Thousands of towns all around the globe would benefit from this. Please email me.

  41. Would be interested to see how this would work on Radon mitigation systems. These fan systems pull radon gas out of residential basements. Unfortunately, the draw a vacuum and can also make a gurgling, bubbling sound when water tables are high under basement slabs. If this ring could be fitted in the pvc pipe it may eliminate the noise that resonates throughout many homes.
    May be very marketable. Would be interested in trying from an experiment standpoint.

  42. Would be interested if you will open source this. I would love to play with the formulas as well as the device to see what it can do for short term testing on yard blowers. I have been waiting for a break like this to have a big impact on the world. Great work team. Great marketing as well. The demo was worth 1000 words.

  43. What about structural noises and sounds, such as those coming from noisy neighbors? Door slamming, walking around, furniture screeching. Sounds that don’t just float through the air.

  44. Hello, as per the writer above, could you please design a product that deals effectively with footfall impact noise for ceilings in particular? This cannot be mitigated effectively without major changes (usually) to flooring of apartments above, which is often outside the listener’s control. Almost all people I know living in apartments would willingly pay to install a panel system to their ceilings to stop this kind of noise pollution, even if they only have the occasional problem of invasive noise.

  45. Could you please open-source the CAD designs, and maybe the algorithms used to produce the geometry so that it can be more easily tuned? There are far too many applications where this would change everything.

  46. Please design drywall or similar internal wall and ceiling panels please, ASAP. This will change the lives of so many people in high density housing, with stressful and fractious relations, as by effectively reducing noise, you reduce the main source of apartment building and council complaints….noise complaints about neighbours.

  47. Maybe the researcher’s will do research on what blocks out structural sounds from inside a building, specifically from someone else’s apartment below, above, next doo, and how to make it affordable and something one can do themselves, since structural sounds such as someone walking, furniture screeching, slamming doors are on a different frequency from outside noises. And talking to one’s neighbors go in one ear and out the other. As does talking to management. And it isn’t a priority with government, who pay lip service to the complaints. while my health deteriorates.

  48. For the people searching for soundproofing and posting here about residential noise problems, check out Bristol University in the UK, designing wallpaper beard on moth wings:

    “What is even more impressive is that the wings are doing this whilst being incredibly thin, with the scale layer being only 1/50th of the thickness of the wavelength of the sound that they are absorbing,” explained lead author Dr Thomas Neil. “This extraordinary performance qualifies the moth wing as a natural occurring acoustic absorbing metasurface, a material that has unique properties and capabilities, that are not possible to create using conventional materials.”

    The potential to create ultrathin sound absorbing panels has huge implications in building acoustics. As cities get louder, the need for efficient non-intrusive sound mitigation solutions grows. Equally, these lightweight sound absorbing panels could have huge impacts on the travel industry, with any weight saving in planes, cars and trains increasing efficiency in these modes of transport, reducing fuel use and CO2 emissions.

  49. With the surge in pickleball there has also come a surge in resistance due to the ball noise. With noise canceling technology the major of the complaints would cease to exist. The application to reduce the sound is needed now.

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