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There are 12 comments on POV: Parents Shouldn’t Spank

    1. My question for you, King Anonymous, is why? Why must there be some good reason (emphasis on good) for something to be permitted so widely? In many states, it is still permissible for the state to execute someone for crimes. In many states, it is not. In twenty states it is permissible for you to marry a first cousin. In other states, there is not. One could say that “there is probably some good reason” for either of these things to be permitted so widely.

      My point is not to say that spanking a child has the same “goodness” or ‘badness’ as the other two things. My point is that it is unreasonable to conclude that something must be good and reasonable based solely on how popular it is across the different states.

  1. Parents have to learn to pick their battles and realize the long term effects of this type of punishment. Yes, it has a different effect on every child, but do you really want to take that risk on your child? It can ruin a good kid for the rest of their life.

  2. In Finland, it is illegal to spank children and it has been for decades. It seems to work well, but one has to understand that it is a social democracy where there is neither abject poverty nor the problems associated with poverty, so discipline is a bit easier. Teaching and learning are easier, too. (In my opinion, there is no Finnish teaching/learning miracle. Their teachers are not better. Their students are not smarter. The success has to do with the absence of poverty.) The downside? Well, if you’re caught speeding, your ticket is based on your salary and that is information that the policeman looks up as he writes your ticket. No one has a meltdown and that’s probably because he/she was never spanked.

    1. “if you’re caught speeding, your ticket is based on your salary and that is information that the policeman looks up as he writes your ticket. ” Fantastic! wish we could do that here. Thanks for all the good info, Jane.

  3. Adrian Peterson was spanked as child. there are many stories of his coaches and father spanking him publicly. He is the best running back in the NFL. I wonder what helped him develop the requisite discipline to be the best running back.

    1. Most adults and juveniles in prison for crimes of violence were also subjected to corporal punishment at home. Maybe, Jake, that contributed to their acts? Violence begets violence. Peterson’s success on the field is far outweighed by the violence he inflicted on his four year old son — cuts to his scrotum even! Schools that end corporal punishment have less vandalism, fewer discipline problems, higher graduation rates. The author is correct. We should be embarrassed that we think of our country as the champion of human rights around the world when we do not yet protect small children from being hit in schools nor at home.

    2. He’s running, he’ll always be running. It speaks volumes, huh. I, too, have been running my entire life but I ended up in a high level position in the corporate world where I could bully people around- it was expected of me and I got paid big money to do it. Our past predicts our future which doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a happy existence. He runs then knocks people down. I ran and ran people over. I think I’d rather be a singer or dancer.

  4. Corporal punishment is linked to poor mental health and physical health outcomes and has been outlawed, even in homes, in 43 countries. It should not be used for discipline. Many children grow up alienated from parents because of physical discipline. See the book This Hurts Me More Than It Hurts You: In Words and Pictures Children Share How Spanking Hurts and What To Do Instead. Children speak out about how they feel about spanking.

  5. It can be hard to put into practice the good ides about strengthening the child-parent bond. Fortunately many books exist about what has come to be called the “new parenting.” I list here a few that helped me.

    Happiest toddler on the block

    Easy to love, hard to discipline

    Both of these books spend a long time telling parents how to work on their own self-control. Another common theme is: when you, the parent, are frustrated by child’s behavior, express in words the good thing the child was trying to do. Also, explain in “toddlerese” back to the child that you understand what your child was trying to accomplish. Other ideas, use humor and games to “turn resistance into cooperation.”

    It’s quite difficult to do. More than once I wanted to pick up my child and throw him against a wall.

    I have wanted to ht and smack. One thing that has stopped me isn’t so much fear of hurting the child down the road, but because the immediate result of hitting my child is like jumping out of the frying pan into fire. Whatever problem I was dealing with is minor compared to the wails of pain and indignation and anger that come from the spanking, plus a child who will look at me with incredulous, hurt eyes, saying, “Mommy, you hurt me!” Then I spend 30 minutes hugging him saying I’m sorry etc. I’m getting into this because many theorists say that spanking at least leads to immediate compliance. Nope.

  6. I was spanked up until I was 11 years old. As was my Dad by his dad. My mother was not spanked,she was slapped across the face, bar of soap in the mouth. Words were also used as weapons. Both of them learned well. Neither form of reprimand teaches love and trust. Neither form of discipline kept me out of trouble – not in school, not from boys, drugs, alcohol abuse and other problems. Quite the opposite. I became a wild child, the “to hell with it” kid. It also taught me to watch my back, to not trust- not words, not actions and especially not common words bandied about such as “I love you”. The use of spanking was not one of the lessons in life which taught me to respect authority nor did it teach me to ever allow anyone get too close. Because you never knew exactly when someone was going to turn on you, betray you, hurt you, humiliate you. Use of corporal punishment is also one of the reasons I never had kids, I knew deep inside and at a very young age that what went on in the house was passed on from before and would be in the future. I was afraid of passing it on. I also knew that anger begets anger as I both observed and was a frequent recipient of a a normal person becoming an unrecognizable insane person who turned me into a non-being when they crossed that line ,fueled by their own rage,unable to stop. I, too, have crossed that line and it scares me. I’ve turned out ok, I really have. But that’s my public persona. No one knows the inside me, the hurt me, the alone me. No one ever will. Spanking isn’t just about the physical pain while it’s being experienced it’s about powerlessness, humiliation, betrayal. It’sabout the aftermath, the “Now what ? Where do we go from here ?” Because the trust has been broken and once it’s been broken, it can be broken again. And again. And again until it’s rote, corporal punishment. These are the people I’m supposed to trust? The good guys, the ones who keep me safe? Really. How does a kid build confidence if the good guys are here at home- what the hell is waiting for me out there ? Yup, to this day, I can remember the very last time my dad put me across his knees, my pants down, the whole, humiliating, struggling, 9 yards, the powerlessness, the look on his face, the unjustifiable behavior, his rage, it was out of proportion, inappropriate. And *he* was my protector, my hero. How does a kid make sense of it ? They don’t, they rationalize it, the internalize it, they turn it into something it isn’t. Don’t. do. it.

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