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  1. It’s unfortunate that we are falsely pushing the narrative that police are actively going out to shoot black people. It’s a great story to cling to, but it is not represented in this case. Mr. Brown’s death is tragic, and I hope his family can one day find their peace in all of this.

    1. Arthur MacDuffie, Rodney King, Abner Louima, Amadou Dialoo, Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, Eric Garner. This list is complied just from my own flawed memory; many others can be added.

      All were or are Black men who ran afoul of the law, either dying or suffering severe injury at he hands of police who we/reare rarely held accountable.

      I wish we’d never learned their names. I wish they’d remained anonymous, unless they had been allowed to continue their lives & contribute positively to society. Brown was off to college in a couple of weeks; he’d already achieved quite a bit to get that far. We’ll never know what potential many of these men had to make a positive difference in people’s lives. That’s a great tragedy that needs attention.

      I agree that many comments here mostly reveal, if not simply white privilege, then a persistent inablity (failure?) to empathize with the challenges faced by so many strivers in our society.

      Can’t we all just get along?

      1. Sorry, two corrections are in order. First, one name should be spelled Amadou Diallo.

        Second, Trayvon Martin was shot by an overzealous neighborhood watch patroller. But for several weeks the Sanford FL showed no interest in investigating his death, until compelled to do so.

  2. If people actually read the case instead of watched the news they’d know that Brown’s arms were never raised in a don’t shoot way. The ballistics report clearly lays out the facts that all bullet holes through the body were in downwards angle. This angle can only be made when the Brown is hunkered down and charging. It’s unfortunate that Brown died, but as above I don’t think he should be a certain point for protest. There is police brutality towards African Americans and unfair treatment. Just read the case and you’ll see that he was no angel at all

    1. Does one need to be an infallibly moral person in order to gain the sympathies of a country? What you seem to not understand is that whether Brown was charging or not, the sensitivities present during a vigil like this isn’t really about just this one case. Tensions between Black people and law enforcement run deeply and far into our history.

      We live in a deeply unequal society. Racial prejudices are rooted in our country’s very being. Those prejudices are internalized and come out in ugly encounters. Michael Brown, Trayvon Martin, Eric Garner, and countless others are all examples.

      1. Ok then the black community should join more of the police force. There is a huge push for African Americans to not talk to cops, because they would be a “snitch”.

        1. If only it was that simple.

          There are a whole host of reasons there is a dearth of Black Americans in police forces. Instead of going into all of the reasons, you might want to ask yourself why this is. If you resort to a racial stereotype to answer that question, you’re only going in circles.

          Read this: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/st-louis-county-police-forces-often-don-t-reflect-communities/article_a29dc3e4-91bb-5cf5-9b30-9ebb95c5e1c6.html

      2. Imagine what some neighborhoods in Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia, etc. would be like WITHOUT law enforcement.

        There would be an increase in black on black crime.

        What you seem to not understand is that blacks hold each others back. Claiming that if you speak correctly, they are acting too white, or if they don’t dress in a certain way, they aren’t black enough.

        Accountability in this country is laughable.

        1. Ah, yes. Black on Black crime. The ever easy scapegoat for justifying violence against Black people. Because Black people do it to each other, it’s completely okay for White people to do it to Black people.

          Have you ever thought about the ludicrousness of the idea of White on White crime? Why do you think we don’t ever frame violence within and among White communities as a cultural pathogen in the same way we characterize Black on Black crime?

        2. Who are you and what do you know about black people. Since when were white people the savior to blacks from killing each other. Like white people don’t shoot us schools movie theater etc.

  3. It’s unfortunate that we choose to undermine the reality of this case, as well as the other 22 Black men shot and killed while unarmed in the past few months. Systematic racial injustices do exist, and it was clearly represented in this case. Thank you to the School of Theology and UMOJA for paying recognition!

      1. Anonymous,

        It’s simply short sighted to push forward the argument focused around unarmed white men killed by black men. Due to longstanding and institutionalized acts of violence and oppression of African-American’s by authority figures, and the disproportionate amount of death’s that result from encounters between black citizens and (mostly, not exclusively) white police officers, you can’t equate the two. To do so, and to ask why more attention isn’t paid to black on black crime for example, is to miss the entire point of these protests.

        1. Take a gander at evidence then. Simply googling:

          bureau of justice statistics 1980-2008

          And looking at bjs.gov’s website and taking a look at figure 19. Why are we worrying about the other 7% of black deaths, when the other 93% is the problem.

      2. The point is NOT that it does not happen to white men. It’s that white men, when killed, receive JUSTICE more often than black men.

        Justice is what it’s about, people. Fair trial. Hell, even a CHANCE at trial. Everyone is saying read the “facts” but what about the FACTS of historical systematic oppression of black lives. Have you ever picked up a book that outlines some of the oppression blacks have experienced and how it filters into today’s society? You can’t claim to be an expert on an issue you suddenly started following on CNN or FOX.

        And it’s funny, really, that so many people with such strong views that claim they are facts are scared to stand by their own views, scared to even put their name. At least the people out in the streets voicing their opinions don’t hide behind computer screens. They are proud of what they fight for because they know it to be true. Do you really believe what you post when you say such bigoted, false things? Probably not. But I guess ignorance is bliss and the false narrative that black people “just keep pulling the race card” will continue to help many stubborn and blinded individuals sleep peacefully at night. Whatever works for you, right?

    1. A criminal was shot and killed by police….black, white, purple doesn’t matter. Michael Brown was a criminal who assaulted an Asian man and what about the Asian Americans are they less worthy of our empathy than a criminal???

      Too often the media fuels this type of drama…the bottom line is a criminal was stopped, tragically, from harming others.

      Let you sleep peaceful tonight because good men and women are willing to do what is necessary to protect the public.

      1. Excuse me but your comment veers from the facts at hand. A human being was SHOT TO DEATH because he committed the crime of thievery. What STATE OF MIND must you have that makes SHOOTING AN UNARMED MAN TO DEATH justified. You may go to a prestigious university but your perception on the realities of the devaluement of Blacks in America is completely SKEWED. Hopefully the use of capital letters will help permeate the message of injustice through your ignorance and complete indifference towards the lives of African Americans. Until then spare me.

        1. I don’t get why everyone has to emphasize UNARMED. It doesn’t matter if he had a gun or just his bare hands. If he tackled the officer to the ground he could have beat him to death. He was far larger and stronger than the officer was. Officer Wilson was reasonable to fear for his life and he was justified in defending himself.

          The media always has to point out when someone is unarmed to make them sound innocent. If a suspect is jacked up on PCP and thinks they are invincible and doesn’t even flinch when getting shot then an officer would certainly want to use lethal force against them to defend their life and keep the public safe. It’s a lot easier to judge a scenario based on reading the “facts” in the paper rather than standing there in the officer’s shoes with a large, angry man who wants to hurt you charging at you.

      2. It’s not like Michael Brown was going around assaulting people. You know what else could have ended his supposed criminal streak? An arrest and due process – you know, the stuff that the Constitution gives him.

        I’m an Asian American. And I’m not speaking for all Asians here, but rather as a person whose racial consciousness is closely tied to my race. I never saw Michael Brown’s behavior towards another person who happens to be Asian as motivated by race.

        And here we dissect the common idea that just because two people of different races are violent or hateful to each other, it must be racial. That’s a very simplistic view of race relations, isn’t it?

        1. “You know what else could have ended his supposed criminal streak? An arrest and due process – you know, the stuff that the Constitution gives him.”

          Your point is well taken here, Christian, because getting shot dead definitively precludes… well, anything thereafter, including the mere possibility of even attempting to navigate the legal system.

          But I believe we should also be careful not to imply that “due process” is separate or apart from the racist history of the country we live in. No part of our justice system exists in a vacuum.

          Thanks for your consistent, thoughtful contributions to these discussions at BU, both here in the comments at BUToday and more broadly.

  4. Plain and simple.Stop the protesting. Mr.Brown was nothing more than a thug and the color of his skin has nothing to do with it. He chose poorly. He ripped off a store, he chose poorly. He decided to lock horns with a local police officer, he chose poorly. Once liberals “get it” that he chose poorly you might learn that if you mess with the bull you get the horn. Plain and simple,do not choose poorly.

    1. He didn’t choose to die. Whatever he was going through that day, or in his life for that matter, he acted with physical aggression against an armed police officer. This happened in front of a backdrop of a long, complicated, violent, and racist historical context.

      Did the color of his skin have to do with his death? Probably in ways you could not imagine. It’s not that Darren Wilson saw Brown and thought to himself, “He’s black and therefore I must kill him.” In the heat of a physical struggle, in which Wilson may have actually feared for his own life, reached for his gun and fired. What is the fear based on? In moments of interpersonal conflict, internalized cultural ideas bubble to the surface and guide our actions.

      But let’s DO talk about Brown’s skin color and where it matters: your characterization of him as a “thug”. Go ahead and say what’s really on your mind. Call him a “n*gg*r”, because what you really mean “thug” is to use code to characterize Brown as yet another tragic helpless violent Black person whose racial nature could not be overcome.

      I wonder – if BU staff members were required to sign in to comment on BU today, would you so liberally use the word “thug” and speak honestly, or does the comfort of anonymity somehow give you the pluck to do that?

      1. His fear was based on Brown punching him in the face and then charging him.

        Are you saying that the democratic process, which the jury saw and reviewed all evidence (most of which you do not have access to), is wrong? Please enlighten me with evidence. I mean, you seem to know more than the jury. Enlighten us with your knowledge.

        And yes, Brown’s a thug, and I will say that to your face and to anyone’s face. Good thing I’m not white, or else my character would be completely assassinated by race baiters like you.

        1. I’m with Jeff on this one. Look at what you just said:
          “Go ahead and say what’s really on your mind. Call him a “n*gg*r”, because what you really mean “thug” is to use code to characterize Brown”
          This is a straw man if I’ve ever seen one. Brown robbed a convenience store and assaulted a police officer. He is perfectly fitting the characteristics of a thug, and yet you insist that someone must be racist to say that.
          You can’t choose to blame every issue on race. This isn’t the community having pent up frustration, and even if it was it doesn’t justify breaking the law. Wilson was acting in self-defense. White, black, asian, or whatever else, Wilson had every right to shoot him.

          1. Yet if a young white man were to act the same way, how easily would millions of people characterize him as a thug? Even in cases of massive violence like school shootings, most of the killers have incredibly complicated psychological profiles done on them – that somehow, it wasn’t their fault that they were hurting and tragic massacres could have been prevented if we *just cared enough*. Where’s this kind of benefit of a doubt for black men? Nowhere I’ve seen here.

        2. Yes, as you use just your first name. Please, find me using the BU directory and let’s have a face-to-face conversation about this.

          The criminal justice system IS broken. Racism is entrenched in it. It is run by and built by people – humans, whose unconscious biases guide their decision making.

          I’m honestly not interested in the details of the incident leading to Michael Brown’s death. What I’m interested in is how BU staff and faculty, who are supposedly educated, understand this incident in the context of a historically racist society with real elements of it today, and then have the gumption to spew it anonymously.

          So please, go ahead and tell me to my face that he is a thug. Because using just your first name is still an exercise in anonymity.

        3. “Good thing I’m not white.” Did you just use the race card?

          Anyway, do I know more than the jury? No. Do I know how the grand jury system works? Yes. You seem to be blithely unaware that even a grand jury, made of our peers, are at the whims of the prosecutor, whose job is to sway the grand jury to either reach an indictment or not. You have no idea about the difference between a grand jury and a trial, it seems.

        4. Desr Jeff,

          You seem to be somewhat confused about certain aspects of US society.

          “Democratic process” refers to elective offices, election campaigns conducted to win those offices, & the laws that enable such activity (or not).

          “Due process,” “the judicial system” or “the rule of law” seems to be what you refer to.

          If we simply consider the Wilson/Brown grand jury, the evidence they heard, & how it was presented, their decision seems reasonable, but an indictment would have been reasonable too. Given Wilson’s criminal handling of evidence in the aftermath of the shooting, & the prosecutor’s gross conflict of interest which called (loudly) for a special prosecutor, the GJ’s options were severely constrained.

          Finally, perhaps you know the old saying about the low evidentiary standard in GJ hearings: “A grand jury will indict a ham sandwich.”

          Well, it sure looks like Michael Brown has fewer rights than a ham sandwich.

    2. First of all, he didn’t “rip off a store”. If you’re going to have opinions, get your facts straight. Witnesses, tapes, and even the store owner said he didn’t steal anything. People have just chosen to believe that so that they can have more “reason” to give Darren Wilson credibility.

      And he didn’t choose to lock horns with the police. He didn’t advance on him and call the cops to him. They went to him on their own.

      So no, he did not “choose poorly”.

      1. Odd. The store videos clearly show Michael Brown taking cigarillos of a store shelf, and when the store owner, a short older man, tries to stop him as he leaves the store, Michael Brown shoves him hard enough to cause him to stumble. Then Mr. Brown and his friend leave the store.

        His friend who was in the store with Michael was also the person who started the “hands up” myth. He changed his story when the autopsy reports all confirmed another scenario. This was at some risk to himself, because there was and continues to be real fear that not advancing the “injustice scenario” will be retaliated against by the community. One young black man who testified at the Grand Jury was assassinated after the verdict was released. He was the only casualty in the aftermath of Michael Brown’s death, and was left dead in the street.

        Have you read much about that in the news?

    3. And what white man do you know has EVER been labeled a thug…EVER? What white man’s body have you EVER been told has EVER been left in the middle of the streets for HOURS after been SHOT to death? WHAT WHITE MAN HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF HAS FALLEN VICTIM TO POLICE BRUTALITY ONLY TO BE TAKEN AT FAULT FOR NOT ONLY THEIR ACTIONS BUT THE ACTIONS OF THE POLICE? WHAT WHITE MAN? PLEASE TELL ME. You are the exact product of the media’s manipulation on the narrative of Black life and the disenfranchisement of our rights to not only LIVE but to live PEACEFULLY and EQUALLY. So until you can answer the questions formerly presented to you, your lack of understanding and experience of that sector of life is UNWELCOMED.

      1. Many white men are and have been labeled thugs. The first American group to be referred to as thugs were white gangsters. The word is actually a derivation of “thugee,” a member of an Indian group of thieves who befriended and then assassinated their victims beginning in the 14th century and continuing into the 19th century.

        And just a few years ago a white bicyclist was struck and killed right in front of a BU building, by a truck, and his body remained in the street for hours while the accident investigation took place.

        My beef is with the investigators in both situations not putting up visual barriers like curtains to shield the deceased from media and other public gawkers.

        1. “a white bicyclist was struck and killed … and his body remained in the street for hours while the accident investigation took place.”

          This cannot justify the outrageous disrespect shown to the body of Michael Brown. Respect for human remains is a hallmark of civilized people. If investigators need to know the position of the body, well, that’s what chalk is for.

          Two wrongs don’t make a right.

    4. Dear Staffer,

      Michael Brown chose to go to college. He would have started in a few weeks, if he had not been killed by Darren Wilson. Would he have written excellent books? Discovered a cure for cancer? Taught & inspired countless students? Maybe that’s what America lost on Aug 9, maybe not; but we’ll never know. Michael Brown had to have made numerous sound choices to get into college at all. But no, to you he’s just another thug, so anything the police does to him must be justified.

      BTW, am I the only one who’s starting to think that “thug” is the emerging euphemism applied to African American men? Why not just say “nigger” if that’s what you mean?

  5. So disappointing to see BU authorities succumb to the mob-mentality and not stand up and capitalize on the teaching opportunity. ‘Hands-up’ linked with the Brown shooting has been dismissed as not occurring—a good story but it did not occur. Ms. Lightsey’s comments are not only misinformed but are hateful, and focus on symptoms, not the problem. The result in a further divide among people.

    As in the classroom, students have a responsibility to use critical thinking, dig deeper and challenge. For example, Ms. Lightsey’s comment of “Too many black lives have been lost from excessive police force”: how many lives relative to the number of encounters?…and is ‘excessive force’ defined as Police breaking criminal misconduct laws? Or the views of a few finding rare occurrences of police misconduct—even those unfounded as in the Ferguson case– that further their own narrative?

    We need more teachers willing to challenge students in a constructive manner. Why is the crime rate so high in communities of color? Why are African Americans under-represented in most police forces? What does the ‘rule of law’ mean in a democratic society?

    Most troubling are Lightsey’s comments regarding our society at-large: “show me what democracy looks like; this is what democracy looks like.” What does this mean? Is democracy a grand jury of Brown’s peers doing its job? Or is it people like Lightsey unwilling to do the due diligence and research/vet the facts, but rather leverage her authority over students and promote actions that do not resolve anything.

  6. The posters about have not gotten it. This protest is more than just about Michael Brown.There is no false narrative that police are quicker to shoot if you are black (cases too numerous to mention ending with the 12 year old boy who was murdered for playing with a toy gun by himself in a park just a few days ago), are stopped for searches while walking or driving black far more often than whites (see data below), are pulled over, and arrested for drugs and constitute a disproportionate part of the prison population, when more whites deal in drugs. It is this dishonesty about America I fear.
    The police might not set out to kill a black man, but given the chance, they have shown that they are quicker to shoot a black man than a white, That is a fact. Added to this is the increase in racism in America especially since the election of President Obama. It is as if all the racism worms have come out of hibernation. So tell me what happens when one of these racist ends up in the police force with a gun in hand?
    The following data is from the federal gov. source: “The 1,217 deadly police shootings from 2010 to 2012 captured in the federal data show that blacks, age 15 to 19, were killed at a rate of 31.17 per million, while just 1.47 per million white males in that age range died at the hands of police.”
    America is fast becoming a land of the racist and a home of the coward. Too many whites are dishonest about it. Even on campus here, I have encountered so much racism from professors to students, it is not funny.

    1. I can certainly agree that racism has increased since President Obama’s election. Mr. Obama and his Attorney General have increased the racial divide — that was far less deep even ten years ago– by providing platforms for men who have made careers of using African Americans. Al Sharpton, in particular, has a long and frightening history of manipulating events — and even creating them — to create a false narrative of white racism.

      I won’t get any fan mail for saying this, but the activist progressive agenda has always been to keep a large group of black people undereducated, in poverty, dependent on drugs, and “second class.” They seek no solution to problems, but to keep them alive for their own purposes.

      There is an interesting contrast with the Hispanic population, legal, illegal, citizens or not. They have never been the focus of progressive activism,because historically they were not viewed as politically “worthwhile” by progressive activists.

      1. Or are Obama and Holder just more inclined to point out court decisions, events, and systemic problems that bring about racial inequality. “Shelby County vs. Holder” for example. Read up. I would say that they aren’t perfect and could do a lot more, but Holder especially has pointed out blows to racial equality and implicitly discriminatory laws when they are right under our noses. They aren’t creating a divide, they are prescribing a divide that most of us passively ignore, if not willingly accept.

    2. He did not steal? He did not assault the store owner? Where do you get your information? The testimony of witnesses confirmed he did steal, he did assault the store owner and he did attack the police officer.

      Grow up and find another social cause band wagon to jump on. Why don’t you take up the plight of America’s homeless or veterans or domestic abuse victims. Stop the nonsense.

  7. The Washington Post does a good job of going through the key points of the evidence and Student is correct that the physical evidence corroborates the police officer’s story. It’s clear that Brown tried to wrestle the officer’s gun away in the first place, and generally continued to resist arrest after having committed a crime.

    Student is also correct to say that an enormous amount of media coverage seems to be of the damn-the-facts-we’re-sticking-with-our-narrative variety. As a case in point: over the last two days, I’ve heard and seen six separate radio/TV reports on this story. Five of the six included commentary using the term “racial profiling.” Three of the reports used the term repeatedly, one used it insistently. Not once did any of the moderators make the plain statement that the Brown case had nothing to do with racial profiling. Brown had very recently committed a crime in the vicinity and the officer had probable cause to stop him.

    As another case in point we could look at the description invariably used to describe Brown: “unarmed black teenager,” as in the phrasing used in this story: “Darren Wilson, the police officer who shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager.” This is hardly a neutral description. What if this report were reworded as “Darren Wilson, the police officer who shot and killed Michael Brown, a robbery suspect who had tried to wrestle the officer’s gun from him”? Both statements are true, of course, but which truth does the media want to tell? How matters are framed matters a great deal.

    The real story in Ferguson has to do, I’d guess, with both poor police techniques and bad decisions by a young man. Clearly, criminals should not be trying to grab police officers’ firearms; they shouldn’t be grabbing at them inside their patrol cars, and they shouldn’t be rushing them or even approaching them after having resisted arrest. Most probably better police techniques would have prevented Brown from having the opportunity to act on his foolish impulses. Brown did not need to die, but there’s no evidence that the minute-by-minute unfolding of events in this case was governed by racial bias.

    The problem of police bias does need to be examined thoroughly, but this is the wrong case to use as the focal point, and Brown is the wrong figure to hold up as a martyr. It seems very unlikely that moral clarity or generalized social improvement can stem from such a spurious source, and I am making that statement without even having brought up the racial demagoguery, the professional race-inciter’s distortions, the useless and awful and self-destructive riots that further tarnish the moral standing of those who want to use this particular story to make a larger social point.

    To repeat, the issue of police bias needs a thorough examination, as does the sheer number of police shootings occurring in the USA. It is clear that African-American boys and young men are more likely to be shot than white young men. The data clearly show this to be so. What is less clear is the degree to which the large disparity is due to the enormously higher crime rate of African-American youth, the particular types of crimes under investigation, the likelihood of either race carrying a firearm in any given situation, the contexts under which police stops and investigations are conducted, etc. It seems very unlikely that all these factors are equivalent along racial lines. These matters need to be sorted out in a rational way, not governed by a narrative of grievance bent towards finding racial bias at the bottom of every tragic story.

    Just to give an idea of how incomplete the “white cops kill black boys” narrative is, here is an excerpt from Pro Publica’s report on “Deadly Force”:

    Who is killing all those black men and boys?

    Mostly white officers. But in hundreds of instances, black officers, too. Black officers account for a little more than 10 percent of all fatal police shootings. Of those they kill, though, 78 percent were black.

    This complicating observation is not taken from Fox News but is excerpted from a Pro Publica study whose presentation of data is clearly framed in a manner sympathetic to the claim of racial bias: http://www.propublica.org/article/deadly-force-in-black-and-white.

    Finally, the larger story of the African-American plight remains the same: many, many more black men are killed by other black men than by policemen of either race, and they are killed in astonishing numbers. This fact has been know for a long time. When will we see college students marching in protest of this outrage?

    In the meantime, I join all those who have wished healing to the family and loved ones of Michael Brown and to the many good people who live in Ferguson.

    1. Hello Kitty!!! lolz. My post was the post before yours. I welcome the fresh and honest perspective you bring. I agree with most of what you said. Michael Brown might not be the best case to highlight or defend this issue. To ignore that their is a problem and not make attempts to properly analyze it and generate solutions is a very huge mistake if American want to live in peace.
      I think it is honest straight talking like you have portrayed that will help.Some police have acted inappropriately in in a bias manner, while some of our teenagers need to respect the law. One should not deny that there are problems on both sides. For those who would deny police brutality to blacks in the USA, just ask Rodney King etal how their beatings went. SMH

      If I was close to you, I would shake your hand. I pledge to council all young men of color on how to react when confronted by the police. Lets hope that this will help in ending these occurrences.

  8. “Too many black lives have been lost from excessive police force…”. Far more African American lives are lost on a daily basis by the hands of their own people. Why don’t you ‘protesters’ take the time you spend standing there with candles convincing yourselves that you are revolutionaries and go educate and mentor the people in these communities. Peace and prosperity for African Americans must primarily begin within their own communities. More African Americans might be killed by police force, but far far more African Americans commit violent crimes as compared to any other ethnicity in the U.S. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand that with a sharp increase in interaction with police, often in violent contexts, there will be an increase in shooting deaths by police. These shooting deaths by police still pale in comparison to the shooting deaths of African Americans by other African Americans. Get to the root of the problem. Stop the violence WITHIN African American communities if you are really concerned with ending the tragic and premature deaths of African Americans.

    1. Ok. I take your point about accountability among ourselves. Are you saying that because there is a problem of black on black violence, the police should start a new from of cop on black violence? If not then shut up and separate the two.
      Yes blacks must be more accountable and decry violence among themselves, but based on the history of racism in the USA, as MLK did, lets shout from the mountain top about any and all racial inspired brutality from whomever it comes.
      What you mention are two different conversations to be had at different times. Allow the people to have their conversation and be just a little bit more concerning. A community of people are hurting and living in fear. Did that dawn on you? I guess not. You would deny individuals the right to speak against injustice.
      I would gladly join a protest geared at ending black on black crimes as I would one on racial profiling, beating and murdering of young black men by the police.

      1. Police force is primarily an issue for African Americans, no? Has it occurred to you that this might be the result of the “f*** the police” mentality that seems to run rampant through these low-income African American communities and that this might lead to aggression and hostility toward police? And that this aggression and hostility among potentially armed and law-offending citizens might lead a reasonable human being (yes, policemen are human beings) to fear for their lives and pull their guns? I know at this point you probably want to argue that the “f*** the police” mentality is the result of police aggression stemming from racial prejudice toward blacks. From what I can see, this mentality in fact primarily stems from policemen interfering in the illegal activities these individuals are often engaged in. You do not see hard-working, law-abiding African Americans generally adopting the “f*** the police” mentality and shockingly, you do not see them being shot by police (let me remind you, because you seem to have forgotten or disregarded the fact the Michael Brown had just strong-armed an innocent little shop owner and stole from him – not exactly a sweet school boy. I don’t think a violent reaction to police is so far fetched here for Michael Brown). Consider that. Also, maybe clarify exactly what you are protesting for – I think a lot of people are a bit confused on this. Are you suggesting institution-wide racism based on the Michael Brown incident and other such rare events? Maybe leave room for the fact that these individuals in these isolated incidents may pose a grave threat to the officers or even that officers do make very poor judgment calls sometimes that end in tragedy. These are, however sad and unfortunate, very weak bases for suggesting department-wide racial brutality among police. Do you mean to narrow your point to just Wilson being racist? If so, what are you protesting? Unfortunately, racist individuals exist among all of us – blacks and whites. I do wish this would change as well. Or that Wilson should have been indicted but the grand jury is thoroughly racist as well and freed him because he is white? Just some thoughts for you. As dangerous as racism is, so are baseless accusations and generalizations, which is arguably what racism stems from in the first place. Time to take a little break and think – I can assist you if you would like.

      2. Also, if you wouldn’t mind enlightening me, how do we know that Officer Wilson’s actions were racially motivated in the first place? I must have missed this.

        1. It wasn’t that the motivation was racial. Wilson acted out of fear and we have to examine where this fear happened and how this incident falls into a long list of police violence against the citizens they are supposed to protect. It wasn’t long ago that the police were actively and aggressively attacking peaceful protesters. It’s news because it’s new for you, but for many communities, this is yet another example of a political and criminal justice system that has been built as a tool to exercise the racial biases of those in power.

      1. As a percentage of the population, Blacks(13%) have a much higher murder rate than Whites(63%). Last year Blacks committed 5,375 homicides vs. 4,396 for whites(FBI).

        Meanwhile in 2012, more whites were killed by police than black, 326 vs 123 respectively(CDC)

  9. Are we going to have a protest for the Bosnian immigrant that was beaten to death by 4 teenage thugs in St. Louis last weekend? Beaten to death with hammers in front of his fiancee? He fled genocide for that?!

    1. If you want to protest for that person. Then do it. Nothing is stopping you. This article obviously was not addressing that case. It’s unfortunate that things like that are happening all over the world, but your comment is irrelevant to the situation at hand.

      1. I think this is directly related to the Ferguson case. These people are agitated by alleged civil rights leaders, the Executive in Washington, and their lapdog press.

  10. What is the protocol for a police officer when confronted with an aggressive unarmed person? Is it to shoot once in warning and then in the leg? Or is it to shoot six times until the person is dead regardless of all other circumstances?

    The answer determines whether or not the protests and the commentary is called for.

    1. For example did Wilson have shoot on sight orders for Brown? Why didn’t he wait for backup or follow him in his car? Did Wilson think that Brown was heavily armed ? And had Brown killed? No. So what grounds did Wilson have to take the actions he took?

      Makes less sense now white america doesn’t it?

      1. Here is an excerpt from a report by the Police Executive Research Forum called “An Integrated Approach to De-Escalation and Minimizing Use of Force”, quoting Cecil Rhambo, LA County Assistant Sheriff:

        “In Los Angeles County we have 5 to 15 shootings in a year due to what we call perception issues. These have become a bigger problem in the last five or six
        years. These are also called ‘cell phone shootings’. Typically what happens is that a deputy has contact with an individual, and a short foot pursuit occurs.
        During that foot pursuit, the individual either makes an affirmative movement, such as a tossing motion or produces something from their clothing that the officer mistakes for a weapon. The officer responds to this perceived threat by firing his weapon. After the shooting occurs, we discover a cell phone lying
        nearby or on the person’s body. The circumstances in which the shooting occurs (such as a ‘shots fired’ call, armed robbery call, or ‘man with a gun’ call) may provide context for the officer’s state of mind. Unfortunately, these shootings have been common for us over the last few years.”

        I would venture to say that is a common issue among many police forces. What it says is that there needs to be more training among police officers to act with logic over fear and to place a greater emphasis on de-escalation. Add to that unconscious racial prejudices, and it’s a shooting waiting to happen.

    2. Actually, police officers are not permitted to use deadly force except to protect their lives or the lives of any one else in imminent danger of serious bodily harm. There is no requirement that they — or any one else — fire a warning shot, or “shoot once..in the leg” before taking the steps necessary to protect a life, including their own.

      In this case, the officer was in his patrol car and Michael Brown assaulted him where he sat and tried to disarm him of his service weapon. Armed or not, Mr. Brown took aggressive actions toward harming and killing Darren Wilson.

      When, outside the car, Brown turned and charged Wilson, Wilson only had his last experience with Brown with which to assess his current intent. And that was that Brown had attacked and tried to disarm him.

      The police — black, white, or brown — are not required to give up their lives in this scenario.

      Wilson had called for back-up immediately, before Brown approached his cruiser. He was not required to wait for those officers to arrive to defend himself.

      Police officers are trained to “shoot to stop” a threat. They are not trained to shoot at all unless there is an imminent threat.

      1. Police are not allowed to use deadly force unless their lives are actually threatened. In this case, Wilson’s was in the car with the fear of having his weapon taken from him. Unfortunately, there is no tape to show what actually happened, but I am choosing to back the physical evidence and not the testimonies of “witnesses” that have been proven incorrect numerous times, especially his friend who keeps saying he had his hands up and was shot in the back.

        Also, to the user “Student”, I completely agree that this article as well as many other media outlets have been very racist and have actually been driving the rift deeper between races. This part of the article sums it up:

        “They came together to protest the November 24th grand jury decision not to indict Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Mo., police officer who shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager, on August 9. Wilson, who is white, has since resigned from the force.”

        This is not to say that there is not tension and clearly more shootings of blacks by police. My comment here is to say that Michael Brown should by no means be the representation to stir up action against police brutality towards African Americans.

        1. As long as juries simply accept an officer’s claim that “I feared for my life,” policemens’ will use deadly force with few consequences. This allows them to literally get way with murder.

  11. I am so disgusted. First this article is commplenty racist, and Ill written. Second why don’t you get your facts before just rambling on and offending others and making this a racist piece.
    Print how many white people have been killed by black people?! There’s millions more of those, but those don’t make any news, our society racism has flipped against the white people now and no one says anything.
    Can I make a black student union here? Like the black one we have? No that’s racist.
    I can’t believe such a piece was written and published. Shame on you BU.

    1. You might want to correct your many typos. I just wanted to mention that from the many articles and reports I’ve read that both officer Wilson and Mr Brown were in the wrong. Officer Wilson shouldn’t have fired his weapon more than once or twice even if he thought Brown was going to escape. It’s against federal law to shoot at a suspect if they are fleeing. Seeing as Wilson thought Brown was a danger to public safety he did the right thing trying to stop him. However emptying his clip into Brown was excessive force. People are angry because Wilson said he had a clear conscience about killing Brown. Even after continuing to shoot when Brown fell to the ground. He then didn’t call in the shooting or call an ambulance to take away the body. For all he knew Brown was still alive, but he let him lay there and bleed out for four hours. The cruelty of that situation and Wilson not being punished at all for the numerous mistakes he made as an officer of the law is what makes people angry. If he showed even a little remorse for taking a life I think there would be a lot less anger and if he was disciplined for leaving that poor man’s body in the street for so long then justice would have been served. Brown was a criminal but Wilson didn’t handle the situation like a trained officer of the law should have. There should have been some repercussion for that but there wasn’t. Race played an part in both Brown’s hatred for Wilson and Wilson’s fear of Brown but also in the courts decision. The systematic minor slap on the wrist that white officers get for the constant mistreatment of black Americans is what makes people angry. Also if you’d like to start a white student union to highlight the things done by white Americans, or others of Caucasus decent, that you feel are underappreciated by your fellow students then by all means do so. It’s not about race it’s about intent. Hope this relieves some of the anger in your heart.

  12. Unlike Eric Garner’s case for which we have a video reference, we will never really know the exact circumstances of Mike Brown’s death. But, I have come to observe that the instinct to pull out the gun and shoot is the strongest cops (or “white cops”, if you may) have when tasked by a “situation” involving a “black” man. See video of cop shooting a black man actually following his orders https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtx1tYc7PxI. Then see a video of cop pulling out a gun on an “alleged” black suspect in the wide open https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuyMuLGXxTs . The issue here really is that a non-black (or “white”, if you may) Mike Brown would have been much less likely to be shot (and shot to death) than the late black Mike Brown; whatever the circumstance.

    This is the American reality. This is why we protest.

    1. Nope, I don’t think we can. If we do than there is clearly a race issue again. So many of these students commenting are so focused on proving why Michael Brown deserved it that they refuse to recognize the number of other situations like these that have led up to this movement and the situations that continue to follow. Why talk about a 12 year old boy who did not attempt to assault a police office and and was murdered because clearly his brown skin was a factor?

      Incredibly disappointing BU. The overwhelming ignorance in these comments in disturbing.

      1. Marina, no one deserves to die. The arguments against Mike Brown aren’t trying to show that he deserved to die but to show that his death was not a race issue. Furthermore, there are so many other cases in which race could be argued as the main issue: Tamir Race or Eric Garner. But in the Mike Brown shooting, you had a young man who committed a robbery, with assault, and then proceeded to attack an officer and try to take his side arm. That’s where I don’t understand why people are rallying behind that kind of figure. If anything, Mike Brown moves the debate backwards in my opinion.

        I do agree that the justice system is completely biased and the stats are completely against blacks. The best was someone put it was that there are “two Americas” and unfortunately that’s true. But, again, Mike Brown’s case was not one of race but simply one of an officer trying to defend himself and trying to go home to his family at the end of the day.

        #AllLivesMatter

        1. Actually, the convenience store owner and lawyer both said that Mike Brown is not the one who robbed the store and he is not the one in the video released for the robbery. The owner said that Mike Brown paid for his cigarillos. And what young black American man in their right mind would charge at an officer with A GUN when the boy is UNARMED? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Darren Wilson was an officer of the law; if he doesn’t know how to analyze a situation and de-escalate it without resorting to homicide as an option, he really should not be an officer at all.

          The point that people are trying to make in their argument for Mike Brown is that, had he been a young white male, he would have lived to tell the tale, whether he robbed that store or attacked Wilson or not.

    2. That 12 year old boy was holding an air soft gun with the orange tip removed. Manufacturers of the these “toy” guns make them to be realistic because that what our society craves-realism-we see it everywhere. Are police officers supposed too ask “is that a toy gun or a real gun”. He was told to drop the weapon, he did not-perhaps he was afraid or just not thinking straight, he pulled the gun like he was going to shoot, police need to make split second decisions-to protect themselves and others. When we as a society handcuff police and put their lives in jeopardy, more than they already are we will fail.

      Tragedy-but the real questions remain…where did he get the gun? Why was the orange tip removed? How come he took it to a park and was waiving it around and pointing it at people?

      Perhaps you would be more satisfied if he had a “real” gun and shot and killed an innocent person before his encounter with police.

      1. Are you serious? Children play with toy guns all the time, obtained from the people around them. My cousins regularly bought toy guns growing up and they played “War” or cops and robbers out in the park. It’s a TOY. White people can freely go to restaurants and other public spaces with REAL guns but a black kid playing with a toy is automatically assumed to be… to be what? A budding “thug?” The comments section of this story is so disturbing.

      2. …But it wasn’t a real gun. If cops can’t be trained to properly analyze a situation or look for alternatives to killing someone before taking action, then perhaps they should not be officers of the law. Also cops have on numerous occasion found the ability to bring in white terrorists alive. I would just like to see that same privilege allotted to our young men.

      3. How does someone drop a toy gun firstly within 2 seconds especially when the said toy gun was in one’s waist? Since you are so smart, answer that. A rational person might be inclined to think he was trying to comply.

  13. Unfortunately, the mob response to the indictment that took place in Ferguson has done more damage towards racism then the shooting itself. By behaving as total anarchists, looting, and burning down businesses, the very perception which those protesting are fighting against has now been perpetuated and embedded even deeper.

    To understand where the racism comes from one must understand perceptions – because that’s what most people have to go on; what they perceive and how they interpret a situation. By behaving in an illegal and uncontrollable manner there is now further cause to corroborate the perception that the police may have towards the urban black. This is no way to effect change. Obama himself said it best when he declared that a bill was never passed by setting fire to a car.

    The only way to truly change the system, or what may be perceived as an inequity within the system, is to work within it. It’s time to stop blaming and take action by behaving in ways that you can be proud of and for which set positive examples to others.

  14. I wish it were possible for the angle at which my head is currently tilted reading these comments to be visible, alas it is not.

    I hear White Privilege spewed all over these comments. you are SO privileged you take offense to the idea of historically oppressed people standing up for themselves and their rights? You see black people organize and it is a waste of time because people who have not had to deal with systematic inequality would find the fight hard to understand. As a BLACK educated student at Boston University I am PROUD that we are protesting. I guess it’s easy to bully a group of people standing up for what they believe in when they make up an unthreatening 3.8% of the population; not to mention this was a peaceful vigil. Whether or not someone is a “criminal” in our country does not justify a lack of proper procedure from our law enforcement.

    Since when does a toy gun or petty crime justify my death? I guess anything coupled with being black nowadays is reason enough for lives to be take.

    P.S MLK Jr. is more than someone for us to advertise to students to get them to enroll here. I’m proud that this happened with the statue in his honor as the backdrop, how fitting. May his legacy and teaching continue to teach us to fight for what is right.

    1. Martin Luther King, Jr. would be deeply saddened by what happened following the death of Michael Brown: looting, burning, destroying businesses which served the community. The Ferguson riots are precisely what Dr. King preached against. He was a national leader who was black; he would despair of the black Misleaders who defame the work he did by encouraging a racial divide that is widening not closing in our country. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are also called Reverends, but their church is for their benefit alone, not that of any social cause or the improvement of the lot of any people.

      Dr. King was a man of peace and of prophetic vision; his dream was being realized. Unfortunate it is that the Misleaders seek to undo his legacy.

      1. well said! And for a contemporary leader one only look to the White House. Obama spoke not once but twice within 24 hours of the grand jury verdict beseeching Ferguson to think rationally and act peacefully. Discussion, not discord, is what will unite the country.

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