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There are 7 comments on U.S. Pullout of Afghanistan: What If?

  1. The war in Afghanistan cannot be won. As rightly noted in this article, “The decision of President Obama’s administration to start withdrawing U.S. forces from Afghanistan by mid 2011 has greatly hampered progress there. It has boosted the morale of al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and other extremists.”
    “President Karzai and his counterparts are certain that they will not be able to rule Afghanistan without the presence of coalition forces in Afghanistan. The United States and NATO member countries are also very much certain about this fact.”

    Given these facts the Bush administration concluded that stabilizing the other countries that are home to terrorists was a more realistic goal. While our efforts in Iraq were not applauded they have this far been more successful from every conceivable military, economic and political angle than those in Afghanistan and, Iraq now has a very real chance of becoming a productive democratic republic wherein human rights are respected and terrorism is not tolerated.

    Given that everyone knows we cannot win in Afghanistan an alternative plan needs to be established. The US cannot afford nor does it have an obligation or prerogative to police the world. If the Afghanis do not want to live in peace so be it. Our resources are better spent elsewhere such as securing our own borders and helping our neighbors like Haiti who not only need our help but appreciate what we can do for them.

  2. Why should we not “police the world?” Isn’t it in our best interests to do so? The previous comment suggests that we should leave Afghanistan and “[secure] our own borders.” Isn’t that what we’re doing? We, and, for that matter, the world, have a definite interest in “policing the world.” Because we are the only nation with the political will and practical ability to enforce peace (even if only to a limited extent), why should we not do so as much as we are able? It is obvious that our nation is not in any serious danger of a conventional attack from any other nation. Nobody desires another terrorist attack, and so why not do our best to do whatever we can to prevent another attack? Besides bringing peace, enforcement of human rights, and a higher level of security to the people in Iraq/Afghanistan, which I believe to be laudable goals in themselves, what are we doing besides ensuring our own national security in the best way we can from the only tangible threat to our national security?
    Terrorists and their leaders will not have a change of heart. It is in our own best interest, and the best interest of the world, to assist the government of Afghanistan until they are able to protect themselves and us so we don’t have to. If we don’t accomplish this, we will have to act again. It will be like hastily pulling up the weeds without the roots, knowing that the problem will be there again tomorrow. If we fail to accomplish this, how can we ever say “job well done?” Although we may have “miles to go before we sleep,” it’s a lot better than trying to sleep unprotected in the snow.

  3. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates has rightly identified failed states as the greatest danger to US national security. This was clearly demonstrated on September 11th as al-Qaeda used Taliban controlled Afghanistan in the 90’s and early 00’s as a base of operations, and continues to be demonstrated in other theocratic nations with sympathies for Islamic fundamentalism. Many reflexively demanding peace seem to forget this is the first self-defensive war we have fought in decades. Just as Afghanistan didn’t become a ‘failed state’ overnight, it will take a long-term commitment to secure and democratize the nation to a self-sustainable level. I do not accept Prof. Mills’s argument that without US & NATO intervention Afghanistan would simply modernize, even in spite of a Taliban takeover and re-institution of theocratic rule, simply because of globalization as if it is inevitable everyone becomes more like us against centuries of tradition. The scope of globalization in Afghanistan is highly limited and would only be set back decades by the inevitable renewal of Taliban power; economic development of Afghanistan as described by Prof. Barfield and further globalization will first have to be developed in a secure and relatively free society. The isolationism suggested by advocates of withdrawal no longer works in a globalized world in which outside groups will not leave us alone because of what we stand for, and we are at the same time by no means economically isolated. This is all not to mention the fact that the improvements we seek in Afghanistan will benefit women who would no longer be legally subject to sharia and the entire population which will have greater freedom, safety, and sovereignty. That is an end in itself.

  4. Two good counter arguments but they do not negate the every real problem with our border which has been permitting Americans to be attacked on our own soil nor do they negate the fact that our nation is all but literally bankrupt. We also have no congressional declaration of war and we are not funding this war effort with war bonds but rather by chronic budget deficits and devaluation of our currency. By the way even Hillary Clinton recognizes the national debt to be a serious threat to our national security. A run on the dollar is a more substantial long-term threat to our national security then terrorists are. Furthermore since we are only able to fund our global police actions by virtue of the fact the USD is the reserve currency for the world you must recognize that if this status is lost due to a real or perceived instability of the dollar so will be the goose that lays the golden war funding eggs. If we want to finish the job we started I say great but we need to cut spending elsewhere so we can pump the necessary resourced into the war effort without amassing more debt. And termination of the federal department of education seems like good place to start to cut the pork.

    1. I agree, but it’s so much easier for people to forget about their soldiers when their taxes aren’t increased to fund the war, and the only idea of the military they know is what they are shown in travesties like ‘Hurt Locker’ and ‘stop loss’ ;)

  5. Has denying Al-Qaeda an area of operations in Afghanistan prevented their proliferation throughout other countries? No.
    Also note: the growing of opium was outlawed under the taliban regime. Opium production was the means by which the warlords of the Northern Alliance (remember our buddies from late ’01) funded their private armies.

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