• Jack Moriarity (COM’20)

    Jack Moriarity (COM’20) Profile

  • Caroline Brantley (CAS’19)

    Caroline Brantley (CAS’19) Profile

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There are 33 comments on POV: Two Students Offer Opposing Views on Which Party to Support

    1. The republicans have turned into a socialist party. Their contempt of capitalism is evident in their lack of support for education and infrastructure. The more educated a population the richer. Goods and services must be able to flow freely from point A to point B. Republicans have let bridges rot and refused to fund transportation infrastructure. Republicans are leftist socialists.

  1. I’m deeply disappointed that climate change is still being so widely ignored as an crucial election issue. Certainly nature is trying its best to remind us what is truly important, with peak foliage having come to Boston only a few days ago. The BU community should be proud of our administration adopting an aggressive climate action plan this past year. We should never tolerate ignorance of science among our politicians.

  2. Well-written by both students, and wonderful to see some articulation of political ideologies “on paper.” As a next step, could the College Republicans and College Democrats collaborate on programs/debates/panels? That would be pretty cool. We need to re-learn how to talk to one another : )

    1. Hey, I’m a member of the College Democrats and we actually had a debate with the College Republicans just a month ago on issues relating to fiscal policy! I can attest to the civility on both sides and we’re definitely open to doing more events with the Republicans in the future.

      1. Nathan – that’s great! Would love to support and publicize your future efforts. I work for the Howard Thurman Center and we often host dialogues on politically-themed topics.

  3. The position put forth by the Caroline Brantley doesn’t touch upon economic issues, or foreign policy, but rather attacks the heart and sensibilities of people. It only touches upon issues of human rights and the marginalization of minority groups like the gay community. It also makes mention of the divide that is happening today within our country. Based on this my only critique is although these issues are important, more focus should have been paid on the economy and other issues in general, the overall argument to vote Democrat is weak and unsubstantiated.

    Now, that being said, you might think I’m a republican, but here is what I have to say to Jack Moriarty and he isn’t going to like it.

    Jack’s arguments are not substantiated, in fact, I will take a brave step by stating they are somewhat ridiculous for a student of such a reputable university.

    Jack asks the reader: Do you want to “continue down the road of prosperity or halt progress and return to where we were two years ago.”

    Jack, do you call bringing coal back progress? I call it stupidity and a lack of concern for the environment. Clean energy is the only sustainable form of energy that will allow the human race to continue to flourish on a planet with limited resources and a population that is already way overgrown. More and more evidence is mounted every day by scientist pointing to the need for immediate action by our governments and industrial leaders, which is clearly not happening under Trump. I want to understand what forms this so called “road of prosperity,” clearly it’s just about the money and nothing else. I’d rather be poor and breathe clean air than be wealthy.

    Jack calls the recent tax laws “historic tax cuts.” Yes, the tax cuts were historical, never in history was there a time when tax cuts for the wealthiest were needed less, and yet the republicans pulled the wool over the eyes of ignorant masses convincing them they would benefit. Now that the cuts are passed, corporations have done next to nothing in increasing wages for the average workers. These cuts came at a time when organizations have never been as cash rich. I hear many proverbial arguments to support the tax cuts, like “when was a paycheck ever written by a poor person.” Spoiler, These are not valid arguments.

    Jack calls the new members of the Supreme Court “two honest constitutionalists.” Jack, are you stating that prior appointees are not? From my view, I see a Supreme Court headed to bipartisanship, which is not an unbiased court at all, where votes will be cast based on political affiliation. It will be a sad day for this country is this happens, and it looks like it is, but time will tell.

    Jack states “some Democratic leaders have even gone as far as to call for violence against Republicans.” However, if I’m not mistaken, the first calls for violence I heard was during the 2016 campaign where Trump called for violence, and called for protestors to be forcefully removed from rally’s and were subsequently assaulted. This can of worms was opened by Trump. It is not right for either party to call for violence.

    “The left has become more and more intolerant of different ideas and opinions.”
    This is merely a reaction from actions taken by republicans. This includes trying to get laws through that will allow people to discriminate against certain populations of people that can’t help who they are, you know who I’m referring to. You may not like everyone out there and you have that right, but you don’t have the right to discriminate against others whether you own your own business or not.

    “When you vote red, you’re supporting liberty and freedom in your communities.”
    – Except if you are gay or lesbian or transgender right? Then you are now in a bad spot because the republicans want laws passed so employers don’t have to hire them, or even serve them. Didn’t we go through this with blacks not long ago? Sadly, we still have some growing to do.

    “When you vote red, the right to freely practice your religion without the government stepping in.” Gee, if your religion is bigoted, then perhaps the Government needs to step in so that you aren’t hurting others with your beliefs.

    “You’re taking back your hard-earned money from the government by supporting tax breaks and rollbacks on economic regulation that prevent businesses from succeeding.” How is deregulating organizations taking back your hard earned money from the Government? Corporations need to be accountable, a system of regulations is required, we don’t allow people to govern themselves do we? Corporations have proven corrupt, time and time again they make the headline news, without regulations they will run amok in pursuit of profits. they will also drain and destroy every natural resource for the sake of profits, we can’t afford to live this way anymore.

  4. I see the classic Republican “me” versus the Democratic “we” articulated once again in these two student essays. I chose “we” when I cast my ballot this morning. My vision for America is e pluribus unum, not “In Trump We Trust.”

    Get out and vote, people.

    1. That’s unfortunate, Anton. It’s also an easy out. If you want things to change, you need to engage. Cynicism is a poor justification for inaction. You can try, or you can whine. It’s really that simple.

    2. You’re correct. Voting is a system that legitimizes unchangeable power structures. The elite will always be the elite and they allow the election to happen to keep the public at bay.

  5. As a actual card-carrying socialist, I can verify that the Dems do not support socialism. They are, at best, a center-right party. Jack’s piece gives conclusory statements with little actual evidence.

      1. “We’re the only country in the world where a person comes in and has a baby, and the baby is essentially a citizen of the United States… with all of those benefits. It’s ridiculous. It’s ridiculous. And it has to end.”

        Want to guess which president can be both completely malicious and factually incorrect in every way possible? It’s a really small list.

  6. You are so clueless Have you ever worked a 40 week or better yet a 60 hour week? Do you know what it’s like to not qualify for any assistance and still struggle to pay your bills after working a full week? I don’t know you but I seriously doubt it. Everyone who works hard for THEIR MONEY deserves a tax break Why should more of my money go to people who don’t work at all. I’m not talking about people can’t I’m talking about people who choose not to and do nothing to improve their situation. I’m all for helping the poor and unfortunate but not the lazy and it should be more my choice who I help and less about the government just taking it from me to help people who don’t always deserve it. And speaking of poor. Do you have any idea how badly open borders would hurt the poor people already living here in America we can only do so much. Other countries need to step up and take care of their people instead of dumping them all on the hard working people of America. It’s not right, Americans need to take care of Americans first, charity begins at home
    I have never met more intolerant people than the current democrats. I was recently in Chicago where there were “mobs” of people forming on the streets getting ready to riot if a court verdict did not go their way. I was there I experienced it first hand it was a MOB ready to throw down on anyone and everyone in the street Want to talk about. being afraid – that was genuine not hypothetical fear That’s not how to act when things don’t go your way there is nothing peaceful or positive about that mentality and it is the current motto of the Democratic Party if it doesn’t go our way fill the streets with violence. Make up lies about people you don’t like, beat people up who disagree with you, protest until the other side submits so you get what you want. Yes I’m sure that’s what the founding fathers were really thinking – not Shame on you Eric Holder, Hillary Chilton Shelby Shoup and Maxine Waters. These are (supposed) mentally stable leaders and they are promoting violent temper tantrums to solve problems Shame. Shame on all of you

  7. A challenge of these pieces, which repeat some of the same talking points we often hear, is that the two sides aren’t addressing each other’s concerns. What do Democrats say about the laudable unemployment rate? How do Republicans address the lack of tax relief for middle-class Americans? Why don’t the two parties regularly talk about the SAME issues, in dialogue, rather than lobbing the same criticisms and platitudes back and forth? I am squarely in the camp of one of the writers, yet I fear that if the two sides can’t have a true dialogue, our political system and cultural climate will remain broken.

  8. Yes, the wealthiest of us are doing quite well under Trump. The poor and lower-middle income folks, not so much. And how soon we forget that President Obama inherited an economic disaster, brought about by 8 years of irresponsible Republican deregulation, and two very expensive wars coupled with tax cuts. Thankfully, President Obama skillfully brought us through an economic crisis and got us back on the upswing. Which was then inherited by Mr. Trump, who quickly and undeservedly took credit for it. I’m not saying he’s done everything wrong since he took office, but overall I think we can do better. A LOT better.

  9. Jack wrote, “Since President Trump took office, the unemployment rate has fallen [below] 4 percent, over 3,000,000 new jobs have been created, and the S&P 500 reached a new all-time high. The economy is soaring (250,000 jobs were added just last month)…”

    This explanation of the strength of the economy is either ignorant or deliberately presented without proper context. Compared with the preceding 21-month period during Obama’s second term, average monthly job growth has decreased by about 9.8 percent during the first 21 months of Trump’s presidency. Also, the S&P 500 reaching a new all-time high is not noteworthy, as anyone who has ever looked at a chart of the S&P 500 over the past 10 years can attest.

    Yes, the economy is doing well. But to credit Trump with “these incredible accomplishments” and to revel in “all the great progress our country has made in such a short time” is silly.

    1. Of course job growth is decreasing we are approaching peak employment.
      The S&P is up because of earnings growth and that is a direct correlation to tax reform and why some companies have 25% year over year earnings growth.
      We never had 3% annual GDP growth under Obama.
      Give credit where credit is due.

      1. I said that the economy is doing well. I was taking issue with the author’s misleading presentation of the evidence, as if the job growth is unprecedented and the S&P 500 reaching an all-time high is a monumental achievement. (And more than 24 hours after publication, there still has not been a correction for the wildly inaccurate statement that “the unemployment rate has fallen 4 percent” when it should read “has fallen below 4 percent.”)

        Yes, GDP and wage growth are strong. But the tax cuts have also led to the debt and deficit rising fast. Republicans used to care about that. And lower taxes are great, but it’s difficult to argue that a more equitable plan that didn’t so blatantly and disproportionately favor the extremely wealthy couldn’t have been implemented.

  10. “Over the past few years, the Democrats have shifted their party platform from the party of the blue-collar worker to the party of social justice socialism.”

    LOL if only this were actually true. What you call “socialism”, I call common sense policies (like single-payer) that are successful in most other developed countries around the world. American politics has shifted so ridiculously far to the right that any policy that isn’t 100% free market hypercapitalism is seen as Marxism.

    1. This is actually not true. The Scandivian countries rank among the most economically free in the world, and their military Is provided for by the US. Entitlement programs don’t mean Scandinavia is socialist – can’t pick and choose like that.

      The US does not have the same level of economic freedom to justify such programs and the insane taxes that accompany them.

  11. So are we uh, just gonna forget about the part where Jack said that homophobia is a religious choice? Take it from me, a lesbian, that’s actually a Really Disgusting thing to say. I would rather not have my university uplift voices that want to make violent discrimination against people like me a “right.”

      1. Jack referred to “the government stepping in and telling you when your beliefs are okay and when they are not okay” and proceeded to cite the example of a Colorado baker who refused to bake a cake to a gay couple. The citation felt thoughtless, and may have been chosen for shock or recognition factor; still, there are more relevant examples of the US government policing the religious beliefs of Americans. The instance Jack named directly affects a disadvantaged, minority population (the LGBT+ community). As such, the issue is not as simple as a belief being deemed “not okay.”

    1. Jack said nothing of the sort, and the fact that you accuse him of such is gross.

      Jack’s view that the government cannot require an individual to conduct business against their religious believes is a normal, rational, and mainstream idea. To say that the author wants violence against LGBT people because you disagree with this is not only factually wrong but also morally lost.
      Must of us, as quite presumably Jack, stand with LGBT people as we stand with the rights of the individual.

      This is the perfect example of why we need to vote Red. We need to stop the mob of emotionalists who would see free discourse shut down in the name of feelings.

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