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  1. Things change,
    people think,
    at the end of the day it all is about beliefs,
    With all my respect to Senator Obama I do not believe that he will be able to win the presidential election against Senator McCain.
    The result of upcoming election will be decided not by registered democrats or republicans, but by people who have not said yet their word, who even did not think yet of coming to the election booth. But when the time comes those people will step up voting not for someone’s ideas, but against the person they would not like to have as a president.
    With a ballot in a hand most people will be choosing between a white man and a black man, for many on an unconscious level with making “reasonable” excuses, but this is how psychology works. The case “a man against a women” would be more favorite for democrats.
    Even the case “a women President and a black Vice President” would be stronger then a case “a black President and a women Vice President”.
    Soon we all see who are right, pink idealists or seasoned realists.

  2. i feel like you’re trying to pass off a certain skewed pessimism as a form of objective realism.

    sure, racism exists. sure, it will probably play a role in deciding who the next president will be. but i think its entirely unrealistic to believe that race-preference will play so overwhelmingly a role in the election that it will supersede issues such as healthcare or the economy or even national security

    from another perspective, if you believe that the american people vote overwhelmingly on the basis of color, reverse the colors. give mccain all of his political and economic beliefs, the fact that he is a sort of libertarian candidate running in the republican party, but make him black. make obama white but give him the same beliefs. do you think race will play that big of a role then?

    maybe you can make the argument that obama’s and mccain’s race define their beliefs but one has to only look at the spectrum of black and white conservatives and liberals to find that argument a bit weak

    really, like you said, it comes down to beliefs. but i don’t think all, or even most of those beliefs are race-related.

  3. For me it is a fact: World needs the change and cannot afford to wait. It is not an issue of white vs black or man vs women, it is a matter of do you believe in change. Look yourself in the mirror and ask you that question. I know that people who have voted for Obama are white, black, women and men, who believe in the idea he represents: don’t trust lobbyists, believe in peace, believe in alternative energies. McCain doesn’t and never will represent idea of change. Obama will not tell you how the change ends but he can show you how it starts. As JFK said: “I don’t know if the the world will be the better place in a year, or 10 years or 1000 years, but lets start working on in”.

  4. If Obama doesn’t choose Hillary for VP, what about Hillary running as an Independent? The only way I vote Republican is if Hillary is on the ticket.

  5. Professor Sheppard’s analysis was as measured and sound as any I have seen. He was gentle in his assessments of what went wrong for Sen. Clinton. As a former “Washington insider” I learned over a decade ago that one of her failings is that, for all of her gifts, whatever those may be, she has a political tin ear. That was yet again on display Tuesday night, when, with classic narcissistic egotism rampant, she intended to keep together her “18-million strong army” and keep her options open. What she just did not hear, nor calculate properly, was first, the deep anger of members of Congress over her tactic and what she was doing to the party and their careers by keeping them “on the hook.” Angry conference calls ensued. Second, by the day, those 18 million, whom she does NOT “own,” will fade away and go elsewhere. Likely, 20% of her faithful will remain with her. That’s 3.6 million, and they could affect the electoral vote. Depends on where they live. If mostlly, the adoring faithful are in MA or CA, they are impotent. Obama is a lock in both places, no matter what they do.
    But most of all, as every poll has underscored for months, and as political realism has long taught us, the target in all elections is the “independent voters.” Yes, some are racists and those who wrote about that, above, are correct. Write them off. Importantly, Hillary is and always has been what the Economist called (a year and more ago) a “polarizing personality.” Among independents, this shows: 75% vote for Obama if he wins the nomination, that same number (though different people) vote for McCain if she wins it. She angers people to the tune of nearly 45% of the total electorate. And if she had won, she would have roused and activated the Republican base, a percentage of which is disgusted with the party and where it has gone and with this presumptive nominee (McCain). ALL of this points to why Obama was the wiser choice. As for running a woman and a minority on the same ticket? Just how much “new” can the generally moderate to conservative electorate take at once? Not that much. Like it or not, and angry though it may make those who worship and adore Senator Clinton, having her on the ticket is the way to disaster. NOT a dream ticket at all.

  6. … and if we did not rely on the lackluster MSM coverage, we’d end up with two viable candidates duking it out in the Democratic primaries and one candidate easily capturing the Republican ticket. Of course, I’m talking about Kucinich, Gravel, and Ron Paul respectively.

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