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Anni e Cohen-Solal: Yes, a nd from the Etr usca ns. But to go bac k to th e
co ll ections in mu seums. We ta lked a bo ut the impress ionists being
broug ht he re, but Napo leon brought back a rt fr om hi s campa igns in
Egyp t a nd Ita ly, Lo rd Elgin ca rri ed the Pa rtheno n 's ma rbl e to England
from G reece, a nd Empero r Willi am
II
bro ught Pri am's treas ure and the
Temple of Zeus to Ber lin fr om Perga mo n . Yo u' re a bso lutely ri ght th a t
this patte rn deve lo ped a ll ove r the wo rld.
Jul es Olitski: Have yo u considered looking a t the so-ca ll ed jo urneymen
in the ea rl y I 800s, la te 1700S? T hey we re no t sophisti ca ted , they had no
con nect io ns. T heir a rt is kind of ha rsh, simple. I'm a lways curio us about
them. Beca use they' re ra ther cha rming and express ive a nd I do n 't think
muc h has been sa id a bo ut th em.
Anni e Cohen-Solal: Yo u' re ta lk ing a bo ut Ameri ca n a rti sts? Willi am
Dun la p a nd th e li ke? Wh o went fr om vill age to vill age to d o po rtra its?
Jul es Olitski: Yes.
Ruth Bowman: Isn 't it inte resting tha t Mrs. Rockefe ll er co ll ected fo lk
an?
Anni e Cohen-Solal: T ha t is a traditi o n th a t goes bac k a lo ng time. T he
da ughte r of Lo uis Havemeyer a lso co ll ected fo lk a rt.
Jules Olitski: They seemingly had no rela ti o nship to Lond o n o r Pa ri s.
And yet th ey seemed to see something th a t they based th eir a rt o n, espe–
cia ll y th eir re li gio us pa intings.
Anni e Coh en-Sol a l: Did yo u see these a t the M et ?
Ruth Bowman: No, a t the New Yo rk Historica l Soci ety and th e M a r–
iti me Society.
Jul es Olitski: T hey did have a ro le in American a rt.
Annie Cohen-Solal: Yes, th ey a re influential cross-cultura ll y. Th a t IS
interes ting. It is a fi eld I sho uld look into next.
Edith Kurzweil: Th ank yo u, Anni e.
If
there a re no mo re spec ific qu es–
ti o ns, let 's con tinu e thi s di scuss io n ove r desse rt
