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  1. Thank you for presenting this analysis. One point, though, which I would like to make: Vice President Biden’s statement, “‘Not that many teachers are going to die.’ Come on,” was not to be taken at face value or as indicative of his own perspective or position but rather as a criticism of the president’s oft-stated position, which promotes reopening of schools with little to no regard for the risks posed to teachers, staff, and students. Had this comment been in writing, the first part of the sentence would have had clarifying quotes around it. I felt that was evident in Biden’s tone, but out of respect for the commentator and their expertise, I wanted to be sure I’d heard and interpreted correctly. I’m confident that I did, and I hope that this will alleviate Dr. Meade’s concerns regarding this statement. I’ve included two links, one to an EdWeek blog and one to a statement put out last night by the American Federation of Teachers, both of which respond to last night’s debate regarding coronavirus and the reopening of schools. Thank you again to those interviewed for this article and to BU Today for publishing it.

    https://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/campaign-k-12/2020/10/trump-biden-schools-debate-coronavirus-teachers.html

    https://www.aft.org/press-release/aft-president-randi-weingarten-reacts-final-presidential-debate

    1. Thanks, Julie. We updated the article and Rachel Meade responded elsewhere in the comments. Here’s what she wrote: “Thanks everyone who raised the concern that I mischaracterized Biden’s comments to teachers. You’ve convinced me that I misunderstood, and you’ll see the article has now been updated to reflect that this was meant as a joke mocking Trump’s position.”

  2. In response to Meade’s concern about Joe Biden’s comment about teachers….you must have taken a quick break and missed Trump’s comment . Trump said not many teachers will die….Biden repeated his statement to mock him about his insensitivity about Covid impact.

    1. Thanks, Truth. We updated the article and Rachel Meade responded elsewhere in the comments. Here’s what she wrote: “Thanks everyone who raised the concern that I mischaracterized Biden’s comments to teachers. You’ve convinced me that I misunderstood, and you’ll see the article has now been updated to reflect that this was meant as a joke mocking Trump’s position.”

  3. I know BU is an extremely progressive liberal institution, our expectation is very low for you, but, as your favorite candidate always says “come on, man!”

    Anybody who reads your coverage can see how biased you are (some credits to Meade who tries to be “fair,” but at the end she’s also on board). What about Biden keep lying about fracking? What about oil industry?

    WHAT ABOUT HUNTER’S LAPTOP?

    Your language is becoming more and more similar to 2016, which only means one thing and one thing only: TRUMP IS GOING TO WIN BY LANDSLIDE!

    BU Today, I have a challenge for you: could you please show me one or two story about Trump that you covered fairly and not referring to a Trump-hater media like Buzzfeed?!

      1. Thanks BU Today. However, this story was so good that even New York Times (Friedman) couldn’t ignore!

        If you asked me to show stories that you covered President Trump in biased ways, you know I could come up with tens of examples: I actually collected all of your stories on Trump! they are still up on your website!

        It’s OK, however. You and your mainstream media friends are now the dominant culture! Trump and his supporters are the new counter-culture!

        God bless!

        1. Way to sign off with ‘God bless’ like it is some kind of damned weapon.

          And why do you love Trump so much? He doesn’t care about anyone. He will just throw you under the bus. Vote Biden, dude. Who cares about ‘Hunter’s laptop” when Trump is literally so dangerous that his presidency is costing a massive loss of lives. Not to mention he is a racist in that he literally is xenophobic and uses a lot of slang against Hispanic people and Native American people (me). I actually know someone who works with Trump on a weekly basis and they also say he is a complete selfish maniac. If I were you, I’d drop my political opinion and vote on the basis of safety and security for our country and the beautiful people here like yourself I’m sure. Bottom line is that he is dangerous. “When the looting starts, the shooting stars.”; “Proud boys stand back and stand by.” Look up who the proud boys are. I challenge you to see the other side, my friend.

  4. Meade quoted Biden as saying, “Not that many of you are going to die. Come on.” about teachers in the classroom. I think she lost the message Joe was trying to get across. He was quoting Trump in saying not many teachers will die in the classroom and then in his own comment saying “come on Trump, that’s not true”. I do see where the confusion comes from the way Biden framed this with his sarcasm, but I hope this isn’t the message teachers got as well (my family of teachers included).

    1. Thanks, Megan. We updated the article and Rachel Meade responded elsewhere in the comments. Here’s what she wrote: “Thanks everyone who raised the concern that I mischaracterized Biden’s comments to teachers. You’ve convinced me that I misunderstood, and you’ll see the article has now been updated to reflect that this was meant as a joke mocking Trump’s position.”

  5. Thanks everyone who raised the concern that I mischaracterized Biden’s comments to teachers. You’ve convinced me that I misunderstood, and you’ll see the article has now been updated to reflect that this was meant as a joke mocking Trump’s position.

  6. As has now become quite commonplace in the BU bubble, the three panelists don’t seem to live in the current reality – and they missed MANY obvious blunders …

    One of the panelists actually quotes Trevor Noah … seriously?

    Biden steps on a rake when he says that he’s going to transition away from oil, and you think he explained himself? You obviously DON’T know PA, TX or ANYONE in the energy producing states, because fracking is a BIG DEAL, and the Big Guy should’ve known better – because didn’t he spend FIVE DAYS in intense debate prep?

    Trump told fantabulous stories, while Biden stayed factual? This may be one of THE most laughable comments – you can’t possibly believe what you’ve said! Are you familiar with the now very famous quote … if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor? He’s all against fracking until he visits PA when he needs to do an about face. He didn’t refer to ‘super-predators’ .. when businesses raise minimum wage they don’t go out of business .. there’s NO evidence that he/his family isn’t corrupt? Joe Biden is a serial LIAR … he didn’t start his education at an HBCU .. he didn’t earn a full scholarship .. he didn’t graduate at the top of his class, AND he routinely plagiarizes the work of others … face it, he’s kind of a fraud.

    Come on, man.

    1. Thanks for your comments, Gregs. I wrote that Biden’s visions were based more on “checkable facts.” I did not state that his facts were accurate. I even pointed out that his claim about fracking was *not* accurate.

    2. GregS, you wrote: “Joe Biden is a serial LIAR … face it, he’s kind of a fraud.”

      Something that can also indisputably be said about Donald Trump and his entire presidency. Maybe America deserves better than both of these candidates. Maybe America deserves better than two super old white guys who both have a history or lying and corruption. Maybe the two-party duopoly ought to start nominating and giving Americans REAL candidates to choose from. GOOD people and GOOD candidates. Maybe industry lobby, industry money, and any donations ought to be removed from politics.

  7. Seems that those who analyse the debate have their candidate preference, so their analysis are very unprofessional, because its based in their preference

  8. This “analysis” might have been interesting if it wasn’t another BU echo chamber. You do know there are conservatives on this campus. You have bullied them into silence and submission but maybe seek some of them out for their perspective sometime. Is that too much to ask? You claim to support diversity, but you are certainly against diversity of thought.

    1. Conservatives are not submissive; not in their nature. And certainly not silent.

      I grew up conservative, and after living abroad for two years, I grew up and saw just how biased and ignorant I once was as a conservative.

      Bottom line is that Trump is dangerous, and he doesn’t care about LGBTQ persons, or Black persons, or Native Americans. Think about it. You’re supporting someone who doesn’t care about you. Blind loyalty is what led to Hitler’s enablement in WWII, and it appears to be happening all over again. The fate of the world is in our hands with our votes.

      Don’t make voting an issue, people. Please don’t feel like there are two sides here. We are one nation and we should vote to protect ourselves from danger.

      Stay well, and please don’t let anyone intimidate you.

  9. The positive message that Trump proclaimed last night and at the RNC is telling: He cares about the patriot who simply wants to live their life the way they want, and will not destroy the country in the process. Further, he supplies ample information proving his claims; something that ought to be replicated everywhere.

    Biden’s take? Trump is a bad, xenophobic racist who does not care about the middle class or the environment; despite Trump improving the economy, creating a sustainable economy for green energy, failing to start another war, helping the black community through economic incentives, and shutting America down early to slow the virus’ spread. What has Biden really done for America besides promises? Surely he has had plenty of time in DC to blow Trump away, right? Most of his answers were broad and anecdotal; hardly an admirable example for scholars in a debate.

  10. Please note Trump said “least racist” not “antiracist”. As I’m sure Dr. Kendi would note that’s clearly not the same thing. My guess is Trump has not read Dr. Kendi’s book and unfortunately is not familiar with the term antiracist.

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