Are Christians the Most Persecuted Religious Group?

New book says yes, but CAS scholar disagrees

April 9, 2014
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CAS religion scholar David Frankfurter says numerous religious groups suffer persecutions today. Photo by Vernon Doucette

From the slaughter of 60 Catholic priests by Iraqi Islamists four years ago to what one historian calls “hellish concentration camps for Christians” in Eritrea, journalist John Allen sees followers of Jesus as “indisputably…the most persecuted religious body on the planet.” So he writes in his latest book, The Global War on Christians (Random House, 2013), which cites such authorities as the International Society for Human Rights, noting that the group identifies 80 percent of religious freedom violations worldwide as targeting Christians.

Allen, an expert on the Vatican, was a senior correspondent for the National Catholic Reporter and an analyst for CNN and National Public Radio before being recruited recently as a Boston Globe editor and writer. He has also written elsewhere about anti-Christian persecution. Yet according to David Frankfurter, a College of Arts & Sciences professor and chair of religion, his take is overblown. Frankfurter, whose expertise includes the religion-violence nexus, shares his views with BU Today.

BU Today: Allen calls anti-Christian persecution “the transcendent human rights concern” today. Do you agree?

Frankfurter: There are all sorts of violent persecutions taking place today, and I would probably rate the massacre of Shiite Muslims in Pakistan and Iraq, along with the massacre of everyday Muslims and Christians in northern Nigeria, at least as high as persecution of Christians in various places. The recent pogroms against Muslims in Central African Republic have been well documented and just staggering in their scale. Christians—whether Egyptian Copts or North Korean evangelicals—are hardly the only religious groups under attack.

The problem with imagining a global persecution of Christians, or of any religious group, is that each case is really quite different. The relationship between Copts and Muslims in Egypt has become much more fraught over the 20th century because of economic and political differences. Nigeria is another place where Christians have gained and exerted political and economic power in some ways, while a kind of radical Islamism has energized some movements in the north, with extremely violent consequences. But it is not just Christians who are victimized by the Nigerian group Boko Haram (“Away with Western Culture!”). It is often other Muslims. It is quite wrong to imagine that Christians alone are somehow uniquely targeted by violent groups. And in some cases it is Christians—evangelical, Pentecostal—who are instigating violence, whether against gay people in Uganda or against so-called “child witches” in many parts of west Africa.

Whether anti-Christian persecution is the number one abuse issue, other media reports and the US Commission on International Religious Freedom’s 2013 report make clear it’s a serious problem in parts of the world. What are its causes?

Violence against other groups has always taken place during some type of cultural change—think about the Thirty Years’ War and the Reformation in Europe. Violence against rival or minority groups arises from rumors of conspiracy (a woman or child has allegedly been abducted) or the stark worldview of outside groups, like Boko Haram in Nigeria or Ansar Dine in Mali, and often popular rumors that “those people” are dangerous, subversive, immoral, or opposed to the progress of society. A government might attempt to “cleanse” society of evil, in the form of witches, homosexuals, or minority groups, to demonstrate its capacity to safeguard its people, to embrace a notion of modernity. A particular charismatic leader of any religious group may proclaim that his followers can show their true piety by waging war against some particular religious or social entity.

Is there anything the United States and its allies can or should do about such persecution that they’re not doing?

Given that the United States allows—for better or for worse—its citizens to missionize and influence other cultures, often with highly inflammatory rhetoric and notions of evil (e.g., Uganda and its crusade against homosexuality motivated by American evangelicals) and given that we sponsored a war on Saddam Hussein that has been widely regarded as a war on Islam, it is difficult for the United States to show a united front against religious persecution. But the Obama administration has tried its best on many fronts to highlight persecution of religious groups as a great wrong.

To raise the question Allen asks, why isn’t the West making this problem a higher priority?

Allen’s own perspective is myopic and paranoid, so it is hard to demand that Western countries, with their increasing grasp of the complexity of religious politics in various cultures, take persecution of Christians as a unique problem.

One of the problems with discussing religious persecution is that in some religious traditions persecution and martyrdom lie at the very heart of the stories that organize religious identity itself. We can observe this tradition in Judaism, Shiite Islam, and certainly Christianity, which begins with the martyrdom of an innocent man and continues with innumerable stories of graphic torture and death.

From an early stage Christians embraced these stories, retold them, painted and sculpted them, visited the shrines of their victims, and even drew inspiration from them to annihilate perceived aggressors (Jews, Muslims, other Christians) in a “never again” mind-set. Persecution and martyrdom, as the Barnard scholar Elizabeth Castelli has shown, have offered Christians a sense of history, identity, community, and license for action. In this context, I am not surprised that someone like Allen would raise the cry of anti-Christian persecution, but I’m not sure we should take that cry as more than a deeply traditional call to Christians to view the world as threatening and persecution as a kind of destiny. The great second-century Church father Ignatius of Antioch declared that only in persecution and martyrdom does Christianity become real, and most historians of the religious would say that this sentiment never really went away.

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  1. BU, I don’t know why you bother. Every time I see an article about christianity ( especially Catholicism), there is an eye catching title meant to stir controversy and then some professor talking about how actually, Catholics and/or Christians more generally are either A.) totally wrong B.) close- minded or C.) dilusional.

    the trick seems to go, hey! you thought we published a conservative perspective. haha gotcha! of course not! but we mentioned religion so that makes us sound cultured and balanced.

    I dont think the issue is that only christians are persecuted. of course not. But the way the media treats the persecution of christians as opposed to news about other groups is worthy of attention.

    1. Yup. This article is low-hanging fruit to pander to the most popular demographic. Article title is akin to ‘Are Americans people the most humble in the world?’ But I guess whatever gets views/comments is good.

    2. I don’t understand what your issue with this title is? Especially with the subheader right under it (that shows up just about anywhere you try and access the article) that says, “New book says yes, but CAS scholar disagrees”. The position of this article should’ve been apparent. Should’ve been clear this wasn’t a conservative perspective, but rather a response to one (which was given enough citation for someone who would like a conservative perspective/access to the material being criticized).

      Also, the way that the media treats Christian persecution, in my opinion, is very similar to other groups. What treatment by the media do you feel is unique to Christian groups that isn’t given to other religious groups?

      I think the last point in the article addresses your issue with representation in the media, assuming you are Christian. Do you feel persecuted by seeing the title of the article, and then seeing that the body of the article is about that topic, just not your stance on it?

    3. Totally agree with the majority of comments. In addition…I think the Frankenfurt has muddied the facts. For example, how did gays get a look in? Violent religious persecution perpetrated against Christians is very different from African nations upholding the criminal law (not a religious law) that criminalises homosexuality. Mr Frankenfurt has lost credibility as an academic and gained notoriety as a peddler of half-baked articles. Violence, death and murder of innocent Christians is predominantly the domain of Islam and Communism. On what planet does he live?

    4. This professor said a whole lot of nothing. It was a dance around the facts. He gave a long winded non-answer in which he basically asserted that Christians aren’t the only persecuted group, while trying to dismiss their plight as the paranoia of some.

  2. Frankfurter’s statements are profoundly disappointing for a chair of religion. He nowhere substantiates his name-calling of Allen of “myopic and paranoid.” And to suggest that Christianity views martyrdom as “inspiration… to annihilate perceived aggressors” reflects an incomprehension of Christian worldview that is astonishing. Does he think none of us Christians are listening when Jesus tells us “pray for your persecutors”? And from the philosophical concerns to the facts on the ground, after dismissing Allen’s claims out-of-hand he doesn’t engage the ISHR claims at all. Allen’s claims may be exaggerated or true, but these off-hand comments don’t give me any traction whatever in assessing them for myself.

    1. Well said. I hope the faculty of the College of Arts and Sciences will take any of their colleagues, especially a department chair, to task for damaging the college’s standing by attempting to pass off such a public display of anti-intellectualism as academic debate. Boston University claims to be a “world-class institution”. Our professors should demand world-class professionalism of each other.

      1. I’m afraid that the members of BU’s extended intellectual community are not likely to see eye-to-eye with you, JT, on this matter. This article and Prof. Frankfurter’s commentary are even-handed and fair-minded.

  3. Certainly, Christians are persecuted in parts of the world, as described in this article. Certain American Christians however wrongly put themselves on par with these people, equating murder, physical attacks, arrest, and the destruction of churches, to comments left on the internet by people who don’t want conservative Christians pushing for laws that would make all in our pluralistic society live as they do.

    1. Christians sort of rule the United States. Tell me the last time there was a non-Christian president. Just because the government isn’t always doing what the Christian faith says to do does not mean “Christianity is under attack”. Being Jewish, I get deeply offended when people cry wolf on religious persecution. It is very serious and should not be so casually complained about.

      1. Being culturally Christian and in the majority is not the same as Christian rule. Many Christians as will many Jews have more of a social/cultural identity than a religious one. We are not a theocracy and there is a new kind of fundamentalist secularism that holds a great deal of sway in this country. And any self conscious Christian or Jew should be very nervous about the erosion of religious rights currently taking place.

        The idea is to stop the slide. Russia went from a “Christian” county to a secular, anti-religious state very quickly under Stalin. Fascism and totalitarianism happens when people are not paying attention.

        And do not be offended as a Jew. I was raised in a mixed religious home and one of my parents lost their family in the holocaust so I certainly share your Jewish sensitivity but being offended is quite misplaced a “never again” mentality is much more appropriate. This should be a common cause issue.

        1. “Being culturally Christian and in the majority is not the same as Christian rule. Many Christians as will many Jews have more of a social/cultural identity than a religious one. ”

          Excellent point…

          On another point, as an African-American, I’ve never seen much value in the “whose persecution is the worst” contest. It’s like debating whether a person who was shot is worse off than a person stabbed. Of course, it is a different story if some try and pretend nothing bad is happening to one of the two. That said, the real aim should be, how do we help stop both from occurring.

      2. I understand, as I have Jewish ancestry myself, tracing back to amsterdam, before Hitler. I understand that youre offended and am surprised that I haven’t seen a such response in an earlier comment. Its funny because my very purpose of reading this article was just to see Jews were currently persecuted more than Christians, Because I know that there is a ton of real, persecution going on. No doubt, the Jewish people were the most persecuted in History. As a Christian, with Jewish ancestry, I would like to educate you on our beliefs. First any true Christian, following Jesus, ought to consider himself a Jew. We believe that we have this right because We believe Jesus to be both YHWH and Jehovah. Therefore, we serve The Lord of Host. As for the gentiles, or non jews, I’m sure that you already know that according to the Hebrew law, whoever Came to the region, and served Jehovah, were to be treated and accepted as brothers, becoming a Jew. We see this illustrated through the book of Ruth, where she forsakes all, and her faith makes her a Jew, and the Grandmother of King David. Secondly, we think similarly, as the Hebrews of that time did. Many of us desire that theocracy, We Believe That God’s law ought to be the governing laws in this Country. Because we know God’s laws are pure and holy. Who ever does not believe this, has compromised there faith. So when we see God’s laws being compromised, we get upset, as did Joshua, Jehu, King David, and many others.

        Also, It’s not myth that the mainstream media, and others, target Christianity to single Christians out, and it’s obvious to see that the USA is getting ready to take a firm stance against what Christianity truly is. It’s also very visible in the world that Christians are being tortured and killed for being Christian. Take the case of Pastor Saeed Abedini, and look at the statistics of how many Christians were persecuted for their faith in Jesus Christ this year, in contrast to those of other faiths. This would prove who is the most persecuted group. This is the true topic that should have been touched on in this article, instead of hearsay, and opinions not backed by strong evidence. I would have been satisfied, if this article provided more facts than opinion. I don’t take persecution lightly. Many do cry wolf on persecution, but that doest negate the fact that there are many Christians really being martyred, which is estimated to be around 7,000-10,000 a year. Now imagine how much more are being persecuted, without dying, and the countries that there is a punishment for Christianity. Look at how many Countries Christianity is outlawed in. and the hostile zones.

        here goes another statistic “The report had no figures for killings in North Korea but said Christians there faced “the highest imaginable pressure” and some 50,000 to 70,000 lived in political prison camps.”
        http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/08/us-christianity-persecution-report-idUSBREA070PB20140108

  4. Allen’s claim is that “80 percent of religious freedom violations worldwide [target] Christians”, and that anti-Christian persecution is “the transcendent human rights concern” today. Frankfurter responds with things like “Christians…are hardly the only religious groups under attack” and points out that other religious groups are also persecuted.

    Does Frankfurter think he is offering some sort of constructive refutation of Allen’s claims? Allen did not say that only Christians are persecuted, he said that Christians are the most persecuted. I am by no means convinced that his claim is true and I’d like to hear direct evidence refuting this claim if any is available.

    Frankfurter’s pointing out that other groups are also persecuted and calling Allen’s perspective “myopic and paranoid” adds absolutely nothing constructive to the debate and certainly presents no credible evidence against Allen’s claims. It merely puts Frankfurter’s own bias on display.

    I expect much better of Boston University professors. I’d also appreciate it if BU Today would exercise some editorial judgement when deciding whether to present someone’s expression of personal bias as though it were a valid argument or refutation. Every time BU Today prints an article of this sort its credibility suffers.

    1. Well stated! One would expect a more reasoned, dispassionate rebuttal from the chair of a major university’s religion department.
      Very disappointing.

  5. Thank you for the thought provoking article. I cannot comment on whether or which any particular religious group is more persecuted than another and I am frankly unsure why this would be a contest any religious group would want to compete in or what purpose it has other than to gain pity. I have heard these similar arguments and comments from people in myriad religious groups both Christian and non-Christian. I am not in disagreement that the core foundation of Christianity is a conflictual duality of martyrdom and mercy or that there is not a clear underlying message in all of Christianity (though not exclusive to this religion) that if one is not suffering for the sake of Christ, one is not truly Christian. It is challenging but not inaccurate to have pointed out that Christianity glorifies the martyrs as nearly pure examples of what it means to express unwavering belief. It is seen as a virtue to be martyred for the faith, so to then ask some intervention in the persecution –if it is motivated by opposition to the faith and not by wishes to eradicate colonialization of other civilizations or ward off persecution (self-defense)– seems to be counter to the testing of the faith itself. It seems this is an open conversation and this article is only a piece of it. There is certainly room for reporting on more opinions and perspectives, including from those who are persecuted BY Christians in the name of Christianity and those who hold Allen’s views as feeling uniquely persecuted in all the world.

  6. Thank you for sharing your thoughts – you raise many excellent points: this is a complicated issue and there is a lot of violence happening to many different religious groups.

    I had a question about one of your comments. Are the Christians in Uganda jailing people who practice homosexuality? Are they executing them? Are they torturing them? Are they ostracized to their detriment, and are starving or poor? If not, how are they being persecuted for their religion? Why would it be hypocritical for the US to stand up to North Korea executing Christians because it allows missional evangelicals to leave US borders and try to persuade others non-violently about a higher calling? I find it disgraceful to compare non-violent Christian missionaries to the horrid violence happening to Christians around the world.

    I hope you can appreciate why I find the comparison distasteful.

    Warmly,
    Joe

    1. “Are the Christians in Uganda jailing people who practice homosexuality? Are they executing them? Are they torturing them?”

      Are you trying to be funny? Or are you really unaware that the answer to these questions is “YES”?

      Promoting Christianity in North Korea is known to be illegal. Anybody who chooses to go there and defy the law and leave themselves at the mercy of that regime is not a victim.

      1. Is it a crime to oppose the redefinition of marriage to include same-sex couples in America? Given the forced resignation of the CEO of Mozilla tyranny cuts both ways it is only a matter of time before it is. Glass houses and all.

        I thought the article was about the persecution of Christians not homosexuals.

      2. Christians are NOT the only religion who consider homosexuality a sin and out of all the religions, I have seen more Christians being accepting of homosexuals than other religions.

  7. The idea of Christians in America claiming that they’re victims of persecution is sort of like able-bodied people complaining about how unfair it is that the disabled get all the best parking spaces. This book may be about what happens in other parts of the world, but it’s really just pandering to that “Matthew 5:10 Syndrome” that so many self-absorbed American Christians have.

    1. So you are saying there cannot be levels of tyranny? The hard persecution elsewhere should give pause to American Christians. I meant five years ago it would be unthinkable that Christians would have to go to court to uphold their First Amendment rights. But it is happening all over the place now. A CEO is ousted for his Christian beliefs. A photographer is forced to participate in a ceremony her religion prohibits participation in etc.

      The creep towards fascism and persecution always starts like this. It may not be on the same level as in China and N. Korea or the Middle East. But one does not need to belittle the suffering of one because someone else has suffered more. Or would you tell the person with a broken leg to stop whining because other people have cancer?

      1. The CEO was ousted because he opposed same sex marriage and made political contributions in support of prop 8. Opposing same sex marriage is a “Christian Belief” in so far as one interprets Christian doctrine to be against same sex marriage. Many Christians don’t agree with this idea. To many, it is a “Christian belief” in the same way that anti-miscegenation is a “Christian belief”. I don’t know what incident with a photographer you are referring to, but if losing a lucrative, high profile job because you are a bigot amounts to tyranny, then you and I have very different definitions of what constitutes tyranny.

        1. A photographer who’s already been hired and paid wanted to back out of working a wedding after discovering it was a same-sex wedding. The photographer was willing to refund the money, but the couple didn’t want to have to shop for a new photographer at the last minute so they went to court to ENFORCE THE CONTRACT. It was a business transaction, nothing more. But to self-absorbed people like Christian, the photographer is a victim.

          1. You do not know what you are talking about with the photographer case, btw. What about the baker who did not want to make a wedding cake? Was he under contract too?

            You need to get your facts straight.

            You also need to learn what self-absorbed means.

        2. Labeling someone a bigot because they disagree with you is juvenile.

          It is tyranny when the government says one must participate in such a ceremony even if it violates ones beliefs.

          Yes he was ousted for his beliefs. That is what I said.

          1. Let’s be clear, you said he was ousted for his “Christian” beliefs- implying that he was fired for being a Christian as opposed to being fired because he espouses a belief that same sex marriage is wrong, which many Christians do not agree with. These are two very different things.

            I apologize for using the word bigot. How about “intolerant”? Hypocritical? On the wrong side of history?

            It sounds like the government told the photographer they had a contract to fulfill, which the photographer did not do. Again, I fail to see the tyranny here. Mind you, I lived in a country that had been ravaged by a 20 year civil war and utterly ruined by a true tyrant. Perhaps that is why I’m less likely to equate “didn’t get an executive position in a company that prides itself on inclusiveness” with the “having one’s rights trampled on”.

  8. The professor need only read the news from this week alone to know that persecution of Christians is widespread the world over. Christians are currently being slaughtered in Egypt, Syria, Iraq, and nearly ever other “Arab Spring” country. In nearly every country in the Middle East and China, N. Korea etc. it is a crime to be a Christian and is either punishable by death, dismemberment, prison, slavery or excessive fines/taxes.

    The west is experiencing a growing a softer tyranny by militant secularists that should be watched. It resembles the rise of the communists persecutions of the 20th century where Christians were slaughtered under Mao and Stalin.

    There is no group so widely persecuted in the world today than Christians. Seriously, look up the murders of Christians in both Syria and Egypt this week alone. You will be shocked.

    1. As a secular-identifying member of the BU community, I’d like to say, clearly: the kind of paranoid bigotry behind your comments is not welcome here. That said, if you’re worried about the decline in religiosity in the West, I can assure you that it isn’t the result of any militant plot against theists.

      1. Oh so in other words he is not allowed to express his beliefs and opinions. This is America. Freedom of speech who cares if he might be wrong? He is still should be allowed to express his beliefs.

        1. Freedom of Speech means that the government may not infringe upon anyone’s ability to speak their mind. Zachary Bos is a private citizen who expressed an opinon; he claimed that certain types of speech are unwelcome in this area but he did not nor does he have the power to actually prevent anyone from speaking in this space, thus there is no infringement of freedom of speech here.

          “Who cares if he might be wrong”…? Please think about what you just said. Shouldn’t we all aspire to speak truthfully and in accordance with facts? Did you really mean to imply that “freedom of speech” means that opinions spoken in a public arena should never be questioned or criticized, even if they are incorrect or harmfully untrue?

  9. There was no mention of the role of the US military in both the direct killing and the subsequent rise of killings in both Iraq and Afghanistan, both +99% Muslim countries. Both countries have lost close to a million of their citizens, each, in the past decade+ as a result of the war created by none other, the US foreign policy machine guided by the notorious AIPAC lobby and the US military industry. I would never imagine, as a Muslim, that this article would write this article basing its bias on weak references to what I would call ‘small’ (relative to the rest of the massacres of the 21st century) scale massacres of Muslims in CAF, Egyptian copts or North Korean evangelicals because from a Realist perspective, the death toll of all these mentioned massacres totals to no more than 10/20,000 people.. The millions of Muslims killed as a result of the power struggles created and religious divides that henceforth developed by the US foreign policy machine and our US military directly, causing millions of deaths in both Afghanistan and Iraq can not and will not be forgotten. Is this an attempt to whitewash these wars, just like the Vietnam war? I think not because if it is, its a very pathetic attempt. The world knows the truth better today. Through the courageous efforts of Edward Snowden and co., we have US military documentation of these massacres in both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, in our hands on our computer screens, and here they are: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CC0QFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FIraq_War_documents_leak&ei=R0dFU6H1B8awsATkkYDACA&usg=AFQjCNG77Q6bQF7w1SZCo8KdVlHp72Lbrg&bvm=bv.64507335,d.cWc and https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCQQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAfghan_War_documents_leak&ei=a0lFU4DZBJTJsATP7IGQBQ&usg=AFQjCNGtOODgsYDwI6m84RsaC5BZDfrKyQ&bvm=bv.64507335,d.cWc

    1. You equate war and persecution and are blinded by your own ideology. Do you forget the 3,000 innocents of all religions slaughtered on September 11, 2001? How is the US military responsible for the “subsequent rise of killings”?

      Did Saddam Hussein massacre Kurds and other Muslims while in your religion’s own powers struggles? How many lives were spared by his death? Are there still victims of the Sunni /Shi’ite divide?

      Is death at the hands of terrorists the logical extreme of persecution?

      Stop the finger pointing, grow up, and offer intellectually honest critique.

  10. Sloppy journalism overall. A book comes out (on a religion) and you get someone (from a different religion) to dispute it. What’s the matter – couldn’t get the author?

    One would think that in institution with such high research ambitions would have higher standards than to blatantly promote bias. You do know that you are being read by educated people, yes? Articles like this don’t build an institution; they build a house of cards.

    1. Yea it kind of ignored us but I don’t mind as long people don’t actually believe that Christians are the most persecuted religion in the world.

      1. Christians are. There is a good body of empirical data on this from Pew Research Center and scholars like Paul Froese, Fenggang Yang, Brian J. Grim, and perhaps Rodney Stark. I do believe that Jews are the most persecuted group in the United States though.

  11. Prof. Frankfurter needs to look at the dwindling Christian population in the Middle East as proof that they are indeed more persecuted than other minorities.

  12. I think Christians are among the most persecuted religious individuals in the world and I think the American culture baulks faster at Christianity than it does to other religions. For example, Muslims talk about Allah, no one says anything as it would be considered culturally ignorant. The same goes for Hindus or Buddhists. Christians talk about Jesus and everyone has something to say about it.

    1. Unlike Muslims, Hindus, budhists, etc in the US, Christians impose their religious beliefs into our laws and claim those who do not see eye to eye are immoral or sinful. Christians also try harder than others to convert non-believers to their ways. This is why everyone can have a say. They end up affecting everyone

      1. Europe and America were once wealthy and prosperous because they were founded on Christianity but now they’ve become secular and have turned away from God. That’s why we have Extremist groups and our societies have decayed morally and bankrupted economically. He’s turned away from us and rightly so. We got what we deserve. It will only get worse.

  13. I am ashamed of the narrow focus of these comments.

    Rich Barlow and Prof Frankfurter had a calm discussion about the overblown hype typified by John Allen. They did not write a thesis or spend months on a book, they thoughtfully discussed the issue.

    I sincerely doubt that there has been a decade in the last 1500 years in which Christians have NOT been slaughtering other people in the name of religion. THINK about it. The reason Christianity and Islam are major world religions is because they KILL their competitors. This allows them to build numbers faster than religions like Buddhism which actually attempt to practice Jesus Christ’s teachings of compassion towards other people.

    Given the centuries long history of violence towards other religions. The current complaint/brag that modern Christians are martyrs equates to a child complaining “He hit me back.”

    As stated above:
    “The idea of Christians in America claiming that they’re victims of persecution is sort of like able-bodied people complaining about how unfair it is that the disabled get all the best parking spaces.”

    – – –

    I am indeed embarrassed by the lack of scholarly perspective and Christ-like compassion in the majority of these posts.

      1. Your ignorance of Christian history is apparent and astounding. Please provide some examples of Christians slaughtering in the name of Christianity in any given century. It is this kind of assertion, never supported by facts that is dangerous.

        Let me narrow it down for you. I will give you 2,000 and a Church. Please provide one Catholic Church sanctioned “slaughter” and please provide facts. Tossing out “The crusades!” or “The Inquisition” will not do because there is far more myth about them than actual facts floating around.

        better yet – how about showing which tenant of the Christian faith would ever support such an idea?

        1. Spanish Inquisition killing forcibly converted Jews who were practicing Judaism. During the Crusades Christians slaughtered other Christians as they traversed Europe. I would also say the Holocaust as it was based on German anti-Semitism and driven by Martin Luther’s book on the Jews.

          I would also include the slaughters of Native Americans who would not convert and give up their lands.

    1. Don’t be embarrassed my friend. It’s not about people, it’s about BU Today censoring the scholarly perspectives and intellectual comments such as mine!

    2. The conversation may have been calm, but the publication of it was useless, because Frankfurter wasted time fighting a strawman and using bad examples for evidence. Nobody is arguing that Christians are the ONLY group being persecuted.

      The question at hand is, are Christians the most persecuted religious group, and according to the current research, the answer is yes. According to data from the Pew Research Center, and scholars like Paul Froese, Brian J. Grim, Fenggang Yang, I would think Rodney Stark, and several others, Christians are currently the world’s most persecuted religious group and have been for about a century. This has been studied with multiple methodological approaches, including polling for perceptions of discrimination among religious groups and counting deaths and imprisonments related to people’s faith.

      In every Muslim majority country, Christians and other groups face persecution, thought some worse than others. Those with stronger theocracies, tend to have worse persecution. Christians suffer the most in these countries because they are usually the largest religious minority in these countries.

      Christians and Muslims currently and historically have been persecuted by state-atheists. For reasons due to disgusting political decisions made on the part of the state-atheist governments and for reasons related to demographics, more Christians have been suffering here than Muslims.

      Other places where Christians are persecuted include Nepal, Sri Lanka, India, Bhutan, and Myanmar.

      Christians are also persecuted in parts of Mexico, the Philippines, and Colombia where Marxist (atheist) rebels persecuted them, and where Muslim militia movements exists.

      The conceptualization of the United States as a Christian empire waging a war on Islam is ridiculous. Yes, some people believe that, like radical Islamic Imams (many of whom I wonder if they actually believe this). The war in Iraq made life worse for Christians, at least one third of Christians had to leave, because the power vacuum resulted in increased persecution of Christians in Iraq. Our government has constantly propped up, and applauded governments which persecute Christians and social movements abroad which lead to the persecution of Christians.

      I disagree with your assertions exaggerating violence being perpetrated by Christians. Granted, it has happened. It happened primarily at a point in history when people fought wars over everything, land, politics, money, bloodline, ethnicity, and yes, religion. It is hardly a modern occurrence. Christianity has been spreading in several parts of the world in the modern era, independent of any form of invasion. South Korea, China, Iran, Algeria, Azerbaijan, and several parts of sub-Saharan Africa are good examples of this.

      Islam has spread by force to some places, but some of it’s early growth can be attributed to non violent means.

      Mass conversions to atheism however, does seem to necessitate violence. Russia, parts of Central Asia and Easter Europe, China, and North Korea needed violent government’s adhering to state-atheism to force religion on the people. Whenever the governments either loosened their grip on religion, or fell leading to a new government with freer religious policies, religious adherence in the majority of cases dramatically rebounded.

      1. Agree. The coalition’s response to 911 against radical terrorist was not a “Christian vs. Muslim” defense; it was against terrorist who destroyed innocent people’s lives (of all faith). The further conflict in the mid-east – that I do not agree with – was for financial control… as with most wars throughout history: except for radical religious groups, governments have used religion to divide and gain support of their subjects to go to war under a mask, but the truth behind the intent has been control and financial gain, not religion.

        Since computers and mass information, the “campaign” against Christianity has found many supporters of other religions ganging up to loudly/wrongly blame their own violence on current day Christians – which is causing persecution – in the “separate and divide” sense. Which with such fast moving info and immigration world-wide is taking form to cause future extreme violence against Christians. I hope I’m wrong, because Christianity is the only religion that protects from tyrannical, Marxist, and fascist governments (all translate to Serfdom) taking governmental/military control over large masses of the population. It’s sad to think of so many so confused – and for the author of this commentary to make such irresponsible remarks is not kind. not thoughtful. not helpful to all the world’s religions.

  14. Maybe xtians are persecuted in other parts of the world, but in the USA they are busily at work imposing their beliefs on everyone else with cries of “we are a xtian nation”. Consider just a few of countless examples, the stories abt persecution of non-xtians at the air force academy, expecting non-xtians to participate in xtian prayer, or not wanting coverage of birth control. I definitely don’t mean all xtians are like that, I’m referring to the red state evangelicals.

  15. Seems like this article sets out not to answer the posed question but to belittle Christianity. The writing style and insinuations may actually answer the question in a way it did not intend to. Rather than an objective approach the author took the opportunity to persecute. So in my opinion, yes Christianity is the most persecuted religion. Especially in prestigious academic centers!

  16. Frankfurter adopts the same sort of rhetorical strategies as the old anti-anti-communists. The anti-anti-communists could not refute the wickedness of the communists since that wickedness was well documented, but neither did they want to talk about it. Indeed, they didn’t want anyone to report anything bad about communism. So they changed the subject, nitpicked details, criticized the critics, focused on the relatively minor crimes of the noncommunists, and indulged in whatever prevarications they could rather than acknowledge the central truth that communism was a failure and a source of misery to hundreds of millions of people. They did not want that fact reported.
    Frankfurter is doing the same thing. Rather than frankly acknowledge the central fact that Christians are suffering gross and widespread persecution, he wants to change the subject. Note too his straw man statement combined with denial: “the problem with imagining global persecution of Christians,” he says. The word “imagining” is morally obtuse, and the word “global” is a straw man. John Allen’s book is very specific in its claims; it does not claim global (everywhere) persecution, but rather states exact locations where persecutions occur. As for saying that the persecutions are “imagined” . . . What can Frankfurter be thinking?

  17. God knows who has been persecuted most, as well as who has been persecuted for righteousness’ sake. My primary concern is asking Him to give me the strength to bear my cross daily and suffer for His name. I am following Jesus. This world has rejected Him and, furthermore, crucified Him. Should those of us who follow not expect similar? Surely, some day, true measurements will be taken of our deeds and sufferings, and I can assure you all that it is less important to be just in the eyes of man in 2014 and of much greater significance to be so in the eyes of God Almighty at the end of days. Let it be known that the latter may only be found in Christ Jesus. How I hope and pray to be among that blessed number.

  18. I’m not sure where Frankfurter is coming up with this idea (straw man) of Christians being the only group persecuted in the world. I don’t know of anyone saying that.

    The question at hand is, whether or not Christians the most persecuted religious group, and according to the current research, the answer is yes. According to data from the Pew Research Center, and scholars like Paul Froese, Brian J. Grim, Fenggang Yang, I would think Rodney Stark, and several others, Christians are currently the world’s most persecuted religious group and have been for about a century. This has been studied with multiple methodological approaches, including polling for perceptions of discrimination among religious groups and counting deaths and imprisonments related to people’s faith.

    In every Muslim majority country, Christians and other groups face persecution, thought some worse than others. Those with stronger theocracies, tend to have worse persecution. Christians suffer the most in these countries because they are usually the largest religious minority in these countries.

    Christians and Muslims currently and historically have been persecuted by state-atheists. For reasons due to disgusting political decisions made on the part of the state-atheist governments and for reasons related to demographics, more Christians have been suffering here than Muslims.

    Other places where Christians are persecuted include Nepal, Sri Lanka, India, Bhutan, and Myanmar.

    Christians are also persecuted in parts of Mexico, the Philippines, and Colombia where Marxist (atheist) rebels persecuted them, and where Muslim militia movements exists.

    The conceptualization of the United States as a Christian empire waging a war on Islam is ridiculous. Yes, some people believe that, like radical Islamic Imams (many of whom I wonder if they actually believe this). The war in Iraq made life worse for Christians, at least one third of Christians had to leave, because the power vacuum resulted in increased persecution of Christians in Iraq. Our government has constantly propped up, and applauded governments which persecute Christians and social movements abroad which lead to the persecution of Christians.

    He seems to suggest that Christians suffer in Egypt and Nigeria as a spurious result of political matters which is ridiculous. Coptic Christians have a practice of tattooing crosses on the wrists of children. This goes back centuries when Muslims started to persecute Christians and kidnap children. Christians in Egypt say they started this practice so that their kidnapped children could know that they came from a Christian family.

    I would also recommend that Frankfurter just pay attention to Boko Haram’s (which actually loosely translates to “western education is a sin”) own words. The are vehemently against Christians living in the north regions of Nigeria, they want their own Islamic state, they want Shariah anywhere they live, and the overwhelming majority of their victims are Christians who are in absolutely no way involved with politics and in no way disturb their lifestyles. Entire villages are raided, church services are attacked, and several thousands have died.

  19. Frankfurter makes a fundamental mistake about Christianity’s tenets, among others. Christ was crucified for humanity so that we need not have to live the same agonizing end ourselves and so that we might avail ourselves of the love of God in a way that would actually transform our lives. He did not intend us to all become martyrs, in fact, he was trying to save us from this end. While martyrs have been revered through the centuries, it is for the lives they lived while trying to live out the Gospel that are important not just the martrydoms. Most Christians do not believe that the fundamental rationale for our lives in Christ must be personal and physical martyrdom or even severe persecution. That is the error he makes. Persecution may in fact accompany some Christians’ lives but that is not what God wants us to have in our relationship with Him.
    Figuring out which group is more persecuted may set some objective records straight but ultimately it isn’t the point.

  20. Religion has violated public education and says it’s ok because a belief does not have to be true. may so but who wants that stigma? There is no item, situation or name that fits the time period. there was no alphabet with the symbols to produce the sounds for the names. we do not translate names the sound stay’s the same. they throw their temper tamtures, proving they are wrong. Just grow up and get an education and all religion goes away.thank you John Cunningham

  21. David Frankfurter, in light of the recent events of the Iraqi Christian exodus, you are egregiously wrong. Christians are victims of 80% of all religious discrimination in the world. The recent million dollar grant from Templeton concerning the global rise in Christian persecution goes to Notre Dame and Georgetown. Could such prestigious institutions be guilty of the myopia and paranoia that you charge John Allen Jr. as well? You ought to reconsider the obvious evidence. It certainly does not fall in your favor. http://berkleycenter.georgetown.edu/cornerstone/why-christians-deserve-attention

  22. Those being persecuted and those, defending themselves and others, against persecution by them, both, according to the basic and common definition, among slavery, crime, torture and extermination, of which is the use of force, directly, and/or indirectly, in the least denial, of the right, to life, it’s corollaries and consequences, whether by deed(s), and/or tantamount, to deed(s’) allowance(s), ostensible law (when, what, “Law”, can only be, is primacy of existence, metaphysical, meaning of reason, it’s corollaries and consequences, noncontradictorily, in behalf, of justice) or mind control; and, in a rhythm, with and, with use of, the anti-life force of nature and entirely, by ostensible law: is this symbolized by a snake, with it’s tail in it’s mouth, consuming itself by criminally, forcing self sacrifice/ selflessness; and, then, completing a conceptual, symbolic, topological genus one loop, most scientifically ostensive of anti-life, of mankind,- criminal acceptance of it, by criminal, tantamount, to deed(s’) allowance(s), logically; then, setting aside these, self persecuting, criminal behaviors, one could truly find those being persecuted, according, to any belief and, what law can only be: interesting, how many of each belief, comparatively, the real victims of persecutions, among an estimated 80%, plus, religious population of earth. Then, I would like quantity of results, of atheism of science, being persecuted, globally, compared, to least/most quantity of religious persecutions, in terms of proportional equivalences, and/or differences: well, the exercise, would highlight really, noncriminal persecutions, along, with the obvious of young children, incapable of crime, according, to intent criteria standards of real”Law”, average of 14 years old and younger, for biologically complete development of brains, of our specie, if maturity, keeping pace, for capacity of intent, to become criminal. Nothing else, to do, today.

  23. I found it interesting that this professor (Frankfurter) immediately strawman’s the position of John Allen. Allen claimed that Christians are “the most persecuted religious body on the planet.”

    But Frankfurter starts off by saying, “Christians—whether Egyptian Copts or North Korean evangelicals—are hardly the only religious groups under attack.” This was not John Allen’s point.

    At issue not whether Christians are the only religious group under attack, the question really is whether Christians are suffering oppression more than any other religious group.

    I understand that this is an uncomfortable topic for people in the West, because western democracy have granted religious freedom and have historically prospered under those freedoms. But to down play the pain and persecution that the worldwide church is experiencing for political convenience seems nothing short of dishonest and immoral.

  24. Fact Check: The Pew research study never stated that Christianity is the most “persecuted” religion in the world and certainly doesn’t indicate such “by far”. The confusions are as follows-
    1. The term used by the study was “harassment” not “persecution” and the term was purposefully used distinct from persecution in order to be more inclusive of even minor examples of social intolerance.
    2. The now frequently cited study graph compared how WIDESPREAD religious “harassment” was across nations. It did not account for the intensity nor did it account for population densities per harassment ratio. ie It doesn’t account for the proportionate size per capita of the communities being harassed relative to each other. NOr did it cite who was doing the harassment of the religions (therefore no accounting for sectarian harassment was delineated.) Christianity was cited as having been harassed in more countries than any other 144 followed CLOSELY by Islam 142 a difference of only 2 countries. The study didn’t account for the number of nor threat level of incidents within each country nor overall internationally.
    3. Here is the link to the full debunking of the wide spread evangelical coopt of the Pew study. https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/07/22/are-christians-really-the-most-persecuted-religious-group-in-the-world/
    Obviously the culture of Christianity has seen its share of harassment and persecution. Like so many others, from its outset. As well, if not moreso, it has also INFLICTED and or precipitated tremendous levels of atrocity committed in its name throughout history. The alarming thing to me in this era is that historically when Christians go on a crusade and subsequent inquisition its prefaced by calls to action from the role of victims. Thats why its important to go ahead really crunch the numbers around topics like this to stamp out the disinformation spouted by false alarmists. Its not about trying to play the victim competition game its about patrolling false or misleading narratives. The uptick in religious intolerance across the board is alarming and to me and apparently to the authors of THIS article becuase in this era its more indicative of a growing worldwide culture of brevity, intolerance, harassment, and violence OVERALL toward anyone who represents “otherness” from typically fanciful, revisionist, and chauvinist ideals.

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