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There are 5 comments on POV: Is Philippines Typhoon the New Normal?

  1. This article, while more balanced than many I have seen in BU today recently, does not consider significant evidence that these massive weather events are no more extreme or related to man’s activities than those that have occurred during long term weather cycles of warming and cooling — of the oceans in particular — over the entire period in which human beings have made records of weather, whether mundane or catastrophic. Hurricane Sandy and Typhoon Haiyan were particularly catastrophic because of the routes they took and the heavily populated areas they affected. Advances in forecasting and global communications not only warn us of impending storms but transmit pictures of their devastation around the world.

    Equally strong were Hurricanes Carla, Donna, and Camille on the Gulf of Mexico in the 60s, the Great Hurricane along the US east coast in the 1930s, and the hurricane that destroyed Galveston, Texas 100 years ago. Photographs of the aftermath of the Galveston storm bear a shocking resemblance to those taken a hundred years latter in Sri Lanka, the Philippines, and the State of Florida and New Orleans in the early 2000s.

    The arctic ice caps have in fact grown not only in the past 10 years but statistically significantly from 2012 to 2013. Climatologists and other scientists know and communicate this. Like the coming of the Ice Age and it’s end, cyclical global warming and cooling is a matter of record in the life of our planet and there is no basis in climatological fact for the argument that the planet has entered a terminal warming trajectory caused by man.

    Of course, humankind has damaged the earth and micro environments by deforestation, by heavy and unregulated industrial development in some (particularly socialist and third world) countries, and by the growing development of high-density urban populations. There is no denying that. And there is no denying that extreme weather will CONTINUE to make regular visitations upon us, as it has in the past, before moderating in the historic cycle of warming and cooling over decades, centuries, and eons.

    What we can do to protect and preserve our natural resources makes serious sense in and of itself. This article makes that point eloquently.

    It’s still regarded as politically incorrect– even politically dangerous — to argue against the man-made catastrophic global warming manifesto, but a growing number of learned, reasonable, and observant persons are increasingly willing to do so and to document the cycles of global climate fluctuation.

    1. typical data cherry-picking and disinformation from a climate change denier.

      “does not consider significant evidence that these massive weather events are no more extreme or related to man’s activities than those that have occurred during long term weather cycles of warming and cooling — of the oceans in particular — over the entire period in which human beings have made records of weather, whether mundane or catastrophic. ”

      this researcher/prof is not trying to state a scientific fact linking this storm to climate change. he was asked to comment on whether or not these storms are a product of climate change and is responding. he states flat out that there is “growing evidence” (not conclusive). and there is growing evidence. also, it should be said that extreme weather includes drought. a collection of assorted facts with references:

      http://www.skepticalscience.com/extreme-weather-global-warming-intermediate.htm

      “The arctic ice caps have in fact grown not only in the past 10 years but statistically significantly from 2012 to 2013. Climatologists and other scientists know and communicate this. Like the coming of the Ice Age and it’s end, cyclical global warming and cooling is a matter of record in the life of our planet and there is no basis in climatological fact for the argument that the planet has entered a terminal warming trajectory caused by man.”

      perfect example of extreme cherry-picking of data. weather and ice melt/growth fluctuates year-to-year. but overall trend in climate (and effects such as arctic ice melt) cannot be seen or meaningfully compared year-to-year. the patterns can only be measured and seen over a large span of time.

      so to your comment quoted above–that ice caps have “grown over the past 10 years” is 100% false. you are correct that last year they grew (up 60% from the year before is the actual figure), but that means nothing because the trend over the past many decades has been a steady decline.

      on arctic ice, see this page of ongoing, up-to-date data from the National Snow & Ice Data Center: http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

      pay particular attention to this graph clearly showing the steady decline: http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/files/2013/12/Figure31.png

      and finally: “It’s still regarded as politically incorrect– even politically dangerous — to argue against the man-made catastrophic global warming manifesto, but a growing number of learned, reasonable, and observant persons are increasingly willing to do so and to document the cycles of global climate fluctuation.”

      the overwhelming majority of climate scientists agree that human caused climate change is real and happening, and the overwhelming majority of peer reviewed, published scientific research backs it up.

  2. Could we have Kitty write all the time, please? Intelligence and clarity both. Prof. Murray’s prose is pretty dead on the page, full of gov-speak, gobbledygook, and pre-fab phrasing that goes “blah, blah, blah.” How to turn something concrete and heartbreaking into something abstract and clichéd and dead on the page (“real and lasting decisions”). Prof. Murray wants to be a problem-solver–and do we ever need problem solvers–but this type of appeal will never get through to anyone except a narrow coterie of experts and policy wonks. (And don’t they wish for something a little more alive on the page?)

    I realize that these are harsh judgments, but too many academics cannot seem to learn that one can have the most important message, as Prof. Murray seems to have, but unless that message can be brought to life . . .

    By the way, the teaser is disingenuous. “Too soon to blame climate change, but . . .”. But we’re really going to do it anyway.

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