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There are 6 comments on Mall Project Was “Last Straw” in Restive Turkey

  1. It’s unfortunate to read such an interview of an expert on Turkish culture and politics with enough errors to consider it delusive. As an American Turk I just want to point out a few things that are noteworthy.

    Firstly, the plans the PM offered included a mall but it was only an option, and an unlikely one too. He said it could be a mosque or a museum or something else, not another so called agenda to raze historical infrastructure across the country.

    Second, there is no restriction on alcohol. There is an adjustment to drinking alcohol, much like the ones in the US and Europe (i.g. France and the Netherlands). Also, the topic of having 3 kids is considered a modest request personally of the PM during weddings he is invited for. It is nowhere near seen as a policy or forceful requirement, as Ms. White seems to suggest, in Turkey.

    It’s been a long comment and there are at least 4 more points to be addressed but ill leave it here. I don’t necessarily think Ms. White has understood the Turkish politics and protests the way Turks in Turkey see it.
    Thank you.

    1. As I’m sure I’m not nearly as knowledgeable as NumAK, I would like to pose a few questions in order to better understand the situation.

      1) Erdogan is quoted as having said “Ataturk Culture Center will also be demolished, an opera house is to be built there.” In your opinion why does he feel it necessary to destroy a cultural center named after an important historical figure, just to put up a new one? The Ataturk Culture Center already houses an opera house and there is already a mosque right near the top of istiklal. Is this mosque too busy? Is this culture center deemed inferior? Do you not find it a little suspicious that he should continue to destroy any namesake of Ataturk?

      2) According to the new bill on alcohol, “Retailers will no longer be allowed to sell alcoholic beverages between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m.,
      all sorts of advertising campaigns will be completely banned…the only exception will be the international fairs aimed at international marketing of the alcoholic beverages.”

      ” In TV series, films and music videos, images that glorify the consumption of alcohol will be prohibited. Images of alcohol would be blurred, the same way as cigarettes are being blurred at the moment.”
      Now again, I’m not an expert so I defer to your explanation, but this seems aimed at dictating to people what they can do with their freetime. Taking away peoples’ lifestyle choices doesn’t seem in line with the ideology behind democracy. Does it not seem suspicious to you that international fairs may still take place so as to appease foreign investors, yet turkish businesses must suffer?

      According to a government study, 83 percent of adults never even touch a drink and only one percent have a drink every day,so alcohol abuse doesn’t seem a major issue, how then do you justify this bill being rammed through parliament? Does it not seemed aimed towards the conservative base to guarantee their votes in future local and national elections.

      Your answers will help clarify what the situation in Turkey, thank you in advance.

    2. I think Ms. White has pretty much assessed the sitation spot on. There is no *one* reason for the protests, such as the alcohol sale restriction. Looking at the new regulations and bans one by one, you (or the PM) can maybe justify them, but it is clear that through many such regulations, there is an underlying effort to change the lifestyle of the people living in Turkey and impose a more “conservative” way of life on the society.

      The “three kids” argument may be a suggestion which is not (yet) a state regulated issue, there are many regulations that are already enacted to that effect, for instance the bans on abortion, discouraging C-sections and ban on the sale of next day pills without prescription.

  2. I think this is a really good observation of what’s happening in Turkey today. I’m from Turkey and I live in Istanbul. But it’s unfortunate that they didn’t mention about the environment in Taksim Square. I went there 3 days ago. I never felt that I wasn’t safe there. People were so nice, helping each other, giving free food and drink, singing songs and dancing together.

    People were so fed up with the limitations that government put. The mall project and the police’s severe actions against the protesters,who were just peacefully trying to save their park by sitting and reading books, were really the last straw! Yet, I’m grateful to our prime minister because he achieved one thing in one day and it was uniting people that would never get along.

    I’m not supporting any political party.This was not an act of political parties. This was an act of the Turkish people! So I’m supporting their protests all the way!!

  3. The only reason the AKP is pro-gloabalization is because they are pro-capitalist and are seeking new markets around the world for Turkish industry.

    Lets take a look at the Military Museum that Erdogan wants to build in Taksim Square. It is a re-creation of barracks used by pro-Islamic military officers that the Sultan, in the early 1900s, trained to eliminate the secularist officers like Ataturk. They almost killed the second President of Turkey. Now Erdogan wants to rebuild these barracks as a symbol of his control over the army and as a insult to Ataturk, who actually had the barracks burned to the ground.

    What you have in Turkey is an Islamization process under the control of the AKP. They meddle in school curricula making it more Islamic and giving favors to religious schools.

    Guess who is going to get the contract to redevelop Taksim Square. Calik Holdings and guess who is the CEO of that company? Erdogan’s son in law. Wake up people!

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