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There are 38 comments on New Pedestrian Mall Slated for Charles River Campus

  1. I have no real problem with the concept of more pedestrian friendly areas within the BU Urban Community.
    But…
    I have a big problem with BU’s communication about this rather major change for those of us who work in the schools directly adjacent to this new mall.
    Reading today’s article was the first I heard abut this, and that is really unacceptably poor communication…and that is putting it rather kindly.

    1. Gary Nicksa, Senior Vice President for Operations, sent an email to the entire BU Community on July 9 (email titled Blandford, Cummington, and Hinsdale Street to become a Pedestrian Mall).

      Even if you deleted the email on receipt, we were warned well in advance with a clear subject line.

      1. I work in the School of Management and got that email on July 9. I think that’s plenty of notice. I also think that having more space around the central campus is always a good thing.

  2. I was planning to choose this topic for an important high school assignment I have to complete. Is there any way I can get more information on this project? Thank you.

  3. John, do you go to the president’s annual management conference? I feel like we’ve been hearing about this for years, each time with greater specificity.

  4. John the university actually sent out a mass email about this about a month ago. Perhaps you missed it or forgot to read?

    I think this is great. Hopefully they do something to make the area more attractice… brick work, plants, etc.

  5. I welcome the acquisition of the streets by BU. But I disagree with removing the parking spots from the streets. Until we come up with a better idea that helps the entire community, keep those spots available for BU students and employees. From what I have seen on ground, there is almost never an available parking spot on these streets whenever I have tried and that includes ‘off-peak hours’ and ‘off-red sox game hours’. There is rarely a spot available on even Saint Mary’s Street or other streets in the vicinity. The only people to benefit from this are the parking lots in the neighboring areas.

    1. You make a good point Rahul, BU really does need to address parking. I think saying that the only benefit is for parking lots is an exaggeration though. I think adding any space at all to the central campus benefits the students, especially those living on campus. I think BU’s long term goals should include creating more of a central campus. They should buy that stretch of Comm Ave next and then eventually cap Storrow.

  6. This is really unnecessary. Parking is so valuable in Boston especially near Fenway Park and this street is barely used for anything other than that. Also, the area is used for parking mostly on Sundays and at night when students are no longer in that area. I could understand a high pedestrian traffic area undergoing this change but not some quiet back street where pedestrian traffic is low. Why would BU make such a useless purchase while still making tuition costs higher and higher each year?

    1. Mary they might have plans for the future to completely redevelop that area. Without owning the streets they would be very restricted in what they could do. Calling it a useless purchase seems preemptive to me. 136 parking spots weren’t solving the parking issues BU has anyway. They need to address that independently everywhere on campus. Tuition has gotten out of control, but I think that’s a separate issue to debate.

      1. Two critical words: Air rights. In the not too distant future you can expect a crossover of sorts right over the highway to connect the main campus to the residential/admin areas on the other side if the highway.

  7. Eliminating the parking spots on the streets means more cars will be forced to park in BU’s lots, thus making them more money. When the Red Sox play that could result in 136 cars having to pull into the BU lots and pay.

    1. Agreed! Parking is always an issue on campus and 136 spots won’t make that much of a difference. Like the article says get a parking permit.

      1. They’re making an area pedestrian friendly that the only people who walk through it are employees or students walking to class or their departments, so these are people who probably need those parking spots. How will this make it more pedestrian friendly when people use sidewalks to walk on! Also, it is unfair to force students, like me who may only be attending one night class, to pay for a permit when prior to this I was able to park for free (since metered parking ended at 6). How I am going to have to pay for a permit for just two weeks left of class? Or pay $30 to park each time because of red sox games? That’s difficult. Yes removing 136 spots does not solve Boston’s parking problem as some suggested- it makes it worse. It is in no way going to improve the transportation issues the city is having. And until I hear about exact plans for the use of these streets, the inconvenience and price-tag provides more cons to this deal.

        1. I have no solutions for people who drive. I was only saying that I think that this is a great idea for that horribly hideous Cummington Street and the buildings that line it. It’s definitely going to spruce it up. For people who drive in for night classes, there are always available street spots aside from those on Cummington and Blanford. My point was simply: too bad. Park somewhere else. There is always somewhere else to park, even though it might not be as convenient.

  8. I don’t feel like this changes anything. I walk back there for my psychology classes and I’ve never had any trouble with cars. Call me when they buy all of commonwealth avenue.lol.

    1. I think it will still give the university more of a campus feel to have less areas with traffic. They could also now do anything they want with that space. The first thing I thought when I saw the email was that they should go after Comm Ave next haha. Then cap Storrow and we’ll have a real campus.

      1. If you want a real campus you are at the wrong school! BU was never meant to be a traditional campus and should not try to force it’s way into taking over the city of Boston to make itself a real campus. It is too disbursed and unfair to the residents of Boston (and I am a student of BU and disagree with your comment). You are not going to have a campus feel but removing parking because like you said it does not remove parking from every street near a BU building. That is not going to make it feel like a campus, all it is going to do is inconvenience a lot of people including students.

  9. As someone who used the handicapped spaces on Cummington Mall for almost 3 months while my leg was broken, this is pretty disappointing. The city of Boston granted me a free short-term handicapped placard which allowed me to park close to COM in any designated handicap spot, or any available meter (free of charge) so I wouldn’t have to crutch a long distance. I originally approached BU regarding any disabled transportation (doesn’t exist which is shocking) or if there were any handicapped spots in the deck in Warren Towers that I could utilize for several months. I thought that they would have these spots open to any student who needed them due to their condition. Wrong again, they wanted me to pay several hundred dollars for a parking permit which would then allow me to park in the deck. No thanks. This pedestrian mall will be a serious disadvantage to any disabled student looking to park close to class. Those parking spots were a huge lifesaver to me this winter. And honestly, who walks back there besides students that have class back there? It’s also really dark and sketchy at night back there.

    1. I’m sure they are just going to buy the streets and then not improve the area at all to make it more appealing. That makes perfect sense.

  10. Anyone who really favors BU’s $11.4 million buyout bargain over the hundreds of other needs to which the bursary could have allocated these funds (e.g., financial aid, research, expansion of colleges and academic programs, etc.) is either a very blithe and light-minded thinker, or an absurd one. This is entirely backward. Any pedestrian problem that might exist on Cummington St. is so slight and barely perceptible as not to warrant mention, and–as I said–not while our administration ought to have many other priorities hierarchically more important and for which they’ll need the financial wherewithal.

    After the Student Service Center, I didn’t think we could get more senseless. Why don’t we just write a check donation of our entire endowment to BC?

    1. I can’t agree more. That $11.4 million dollars could easily be devoted to financial aid. Not to sound selfish, but my financial package is the same as it was from the previous year, even though my EFC has dropped by about 50%. (BU is expecting me to pay 2.01 times my EFC) You would think that BU would want to help out its students considering their reputation depends on it, but instead, BU buys 3 streets that won’t really benefit anyone.

      Respectfully,
      The Dean’s List ENG student

    2. Just think about all that money every time you sit in a Registrar-owned classroom without air conditioning, melting into a puddle while your sweat-soaked professor drones on…

    3. agreed – I teach in some really outdated CAS classrooms with poor temperature control, bad lighting, 19th century AV, and miserably uncomfortable seating (so I’m told). I never thought traffic was an issue on Cummington and it was one place it was possible to park when visiting campus. It’s hard to imagine that this was the most urgent use of $11.4 million….

  11. Streets cost $11.45 nowadays??? Geez. I think Cummington Street is a perfect place to make a pedestrian mall though and I really hope they embrace it. A question this makes me think of is why do we still have parking attendants? Like couldn’t that easily be automated and save the school a lot of money?

  12. I always laugh when people rant about how BU spends money… Not like they are going to sell the streets back to the city because you think you can manage the schools allocations better than they can

    1. Agreed. These major expenses are not made to help you feel better about your personal parking situation or because you don’t like the lighting in one of your classrooms. They are made to develop infrastructure you may not see in your time at BU, but which will create the university of the future for many more generations to come. Lets think big picture, folks.

  13. The thing that gets me is how nice can they possibly make it for pedestrians when delivery trucks (for the laboratories and offices back there) will have to be able to drive in every day several times a day? It has to remain a road for those purposes, there are loading docks (3 by my count) back there and with the chemicals and science equipment delivered, not to mention FedEx trucks, etc they won’t shut the road down entirely.

    So we’ll have a road the kids can walk on. Sometimes. Except when the trucks come. So, no planters, no benches, nothing to ‘beautify it’.

    This was a way to be able to build without going through the city, I fully expect buildings back there to be renovated/built very soon. The ‘pedestrian walkway’ kerfuffle is merely spin. That’s not the focus.

    Also, when you take the tops off the meters and leave the posts, you *can’t* lock bikes to the poles (people can just pick the bikes up!) so they’re going to have to install racks.

    Also, it DOES get very sketchy back there in the winter when it’s dark at 5 PM, and without the usual traffic it is going to be even sketchier.

  14. This is being put forth as good news by the people who engineered the change, but like with so many things at BU this is just another ill-conceived project that will end up with no true benefits for those who work along Cummington. I give it three years before they reinstate a few parking spots – starting with the handicapped ones. Calling it a “corridor” is apt, since there’s no sunlight that reaches the ground back there, which means no greenspace will come out of this. (Not that BU cares about greenspace – that tradition goes all the way back to Silber, who wanted to build a new law school on the BU Beach.) This won’t be a pedestrian mall, because pedestrians will continue to hurry through it on their way to offices or out onto Comm Ave.

    BU would desperately like to see itself at the center of a Harvard-like campus, organically integrating the surrounding neighborhood into itself, but the culture just isn’t there, and won’t be there.

    1. If you read BU history, you will find that when the university bought the land where Marsh Chapel, CLA, BU Beach are now, it owned the property right to the river’s edge. Two separate state projects took that land away from BU: The Esplanade, and Storrow Drive. Comm Ave. wasn’t much of a street way back then, and was going to be the back door of river facing university.

  15. I think that this will be a great renovation for the campus. As for everyone complaining about less parking spots why not take public transportation – no issues with parking and your helping to reduce the major traffic issues in Boston.

  16. I think this is more of a long-term trick into reconstructing all the old 2 floor buldings that line up Cummington St without the City of Boston complaining about the mess. 2-3 new buildings have been constructed in the last decade or two and it was a mess when it was happening. Now – it’s all BU’s own land.

    I don’t think BU cares a bit about the parking spots that are gone. BU could have easily made the lower floor of the parking lot under Warren as pay and use with meters, but it won’t.

    @Bruce – 136 spots/day is not a small number. Those 136 cars that could have parked there will keep going around searching for spots and make Comm Av a mess for be forced to pay $20/day parking (and $40/evening for game days). What is gained by creating a calm walking way will be more than offsetted by the nuisance.

    @Alex – I drive to BU everyday and live in a part of the city where the T doens’t go and I have to switch two-three buses. Half the PhD and graduate students do the same. Also some of the teaching staff. I doubt you want us to take public transportation and spend 2 hours in the Bus everyday.

  17. I’m not sure if this information is correct, but I heard BU spent $11.5 million to purchase those streets. I mean, SERIOUSLY??? is it really necessary to raise tuition almost 4% then go waste 12 million bucks to buy streets from the city? It’s not like the streets are exclusively for pedestrians now anyways, commercial vehicles are still permitted to drive through as are emergency vehicles (and i’ve seen many personal vehicles as well)

    The way BU wastes our money seriously pisses me off.

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