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There are 3 comments on 17th-Century Sisters the Kardashians Might Admire

  1. It sounds like the Mancini sisters were fighting for their own personal rights and survival. In this way they seem as little concerned with social justice and the needs of wider society as Paris Hilton or the Kardashians. Besides the titulation to society of their story, they sound ilke just another pair of rich and well-connected aristocrats. –

    Is there anything deeper here than what appears in People magazine?

  2. One can look at these aristocrats in a deeper sense if one looks at the struggles women had in the 17th century. Women did not have political or legal rights, and, although divorce and separation were possible, it was neither a normal procedure nor a feminine one. Women relied on the man to initiate the process of separation or divorce– it was legal for a man to do so, but illegal for a woman, in most countries.

    In addition, seeking separation, for two aristocratic women deeply connected to the public eye and fashion and culture, would be figurative suicide. Such actions would lead to public dissastisfaction– it was not “right”.

    In other words, to see the significance of all three woman, would be to put oneself in their shoes, in the lives of a gender with little rights, relying solely on men; of women who challenged this social norm in pursuance of their lives and their careers. For men and women equally, such actions should be both interesting and inspiring.

    1. Anthony, I challenge you to look at it deeper.

      In most of Europe and America, widows had significant rights. Both poor women and merchant class women had considerable property rights and could aquire near equitable social standing once their husbands died or were sent packing.

      These rights did not acrue as easily to the Upper Class.

      My point is the same as for Paris Hilton: If these women had not been rich, their stories would have been ordinary and no one would have cared.

      I am not totally uninformed about women’s struggles and am empathetic and supportive of the struggles they still face today. I have, for example, read the earliest known auto-biography of a European woman(available at Mugar Library.)

      The focus on the wealthy, of any era, does a disservice to the non-wealthy who face different challenges. To hold forth that these women represent a significant step forward in the struggle for women rights (as in the rights of ordinary women) is, I believe. disingenuous.

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